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My the pool/ ukinghall

Beady

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Just to let you know guys the tracks to gain access to both these pools are severely flooded , I drove a 120 mile round trip to a complete waste of time , so save your fuel as you won't be able to fish these pools due to heavy flooding

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Posted on November 7, 2019 at 12:44 PM

stew83mul

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Re: My the pool/ ukinghall

To be honest with all the rain we’ve had it should be fairly obvious that flooding would be an issue at these venues due to how close they are to the river and the where to fish guide clearly shows this.Maybe a check on river levels or even a call to the office might save a wasted journey next time?

Posted on November 7, 2019 at 1:15 PM

Beady

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Re: My the pool/ ukinghall

I would but the office is not open till mine and it's a fair old drive to any of the waters from where i live I wouldn't be able to set off after nine , and still get a decent days fishing in , and I'm a new member so haven't had time to look at all the pools , maybe just a simple heads up on the site would be good enough to let anglers know before them setting out for an early start and hundreds of miles wasted can be prevented by a simple announcement on the site , only one announcement about flooding in the news section, ukinghall is completely unreachable let alone fishable , since joining I've only been able to fish 1 out if the 4 pools I wanted to target this year , coppice is the only one I have fished , Stubs is full of weed and has problems , but no mention on the announcements, and my the and ukinghall struggle to drain most of the year round just seems like the baa can't be bothered with the pools apart from coppice because it's earning money from night permits

Posted on November 7, 2019 at 1:56 PM

stew83mul

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Re: My the pool/ ukinghall

To be fair there are plenty of ways to check river levels online,just as quick and easy as accessing this website.Maybe a call to the office the day before?I’m afraid there’s little the BAA can do about the Severn bursting it’s banks and flooding surrounding land.The pools have all been treated this year for the weed problems too,you will find the details of this are in the fisheries work diaries on here.Also now it’s getting colder hopefully the weed will start to die off a bit.

Posted on November 7, 2019 at 3:43 PM

Beady

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Re: My the pool/ ukinghall

Yh hopefully as I went to fish stubs this year and the weed was terrible this was another water I wanted to fish but couldn't ddue to access as the weed was terrible , but surely only having 2 pools not situated by a river is definitely an area they can look at so we have a bit more choice to fish as when the rivers decide to burst means that nearly all but a few place are unfishable for a huge part of the year giving that most people work and can often only get the odd few days to fish doesn't really leave people much options , but the website isn't updated that regular to tell people that pools are closed , I went to stubs a few times and it was unfishable due to really dense weed , but there wasn't a mention of this and this pool was one of the only reasons I wanted to join if I would have known in advance I would have not purchased a permit until the pool was available , but I thought hey there's plenty of others to go at , but as yet have only been able to fish coppice although I have to say coppice is an excellent lake and has been great fishing with plenty of 20lbs carp

Posted on November 7, 2019 at 5:10 PM

stew83mul

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Re: My the pool/ ukinghall

We are always on the look out for new suitable venues when they become available.

Posted on November 7, 2019 at 6:30 PM

Beady

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Re: My the pool/ ukinghall

One thing I said after a visit to Stubs was that if they could sort the track there I would definitely help out dragging the weed out it's just my car struggles down the track the front splitter catches all the way down so couldn't risk getting stuck down there lol but would love to get this lake cleaned and back to its former glory

Posted on November 7, 2019 at 8:14 PM

atlast

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Re: My the pool/ ukinghall

back to its former glory ? stubbs is a beautiful wild and natural pool now shes matured,
i never go fishing anywhere with out looking at weather and river levels. esp the Severn as she can come up a few feet in couple of hours.
teme and wye the same.
river and sea levels in England GOV.uk
river levels uk
and my fav Shoothill gauge map

Posted on November 7, 2019 at 8:29 PM

Beady

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Re: My the pool/ ukinghall

Have you seen stubs lately, severely overgrown, and I've never seen so much weed on a pond in my life , it's so thick you couldn't hit the bottom if you tried and it's completely took over the lake on the surface and the bottom , the first time I seen stubs was years ago and it never had a weed problem , and it was a stunning little lake , and some of you saying check the rivers first but I'm not a river fisherman I have probably fished 2 rivers in 29+ years I fish pools and nearly every pool I've ever fished are made to take extra water as they have overflow system so I've never had to check river levels in nearly 30 years of fishing, and as I said I have only joined baa this summer and have since found that they only have 2 pools that aren't prone to flood , because all others are right next to a river but as I said all the pools I've ever fished have never had a flood problem and I think some are missing the point I was warning others from making the same mistake and going down as it's blocked off my point being why doesn't baa just do a post on waters that are available or unavailable it took two minutes for me to make a post , there's just no communication via the website the announcements are out dated and far and few between and when people say phone the office it's not an option if the office opens at 9:39am and I have to leave at 5am to get to the waters ,, and I went yesterday expecting the water to have gone down by now as it's been fairly dry over this week just fancied something different and decided to go to ukinghall for some Zander and pike ,

Posted on November 8, 2019 at 6:57 AM

atlast

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Re: My the pool/ ukinghall

you ever fished Walcott lake ? tho we dont own any more that was the weediest lake iv seen.
my advice with the river levels is because 4 of our lakes are next to rivers. apperley mythe uckinghall and stubbs .

the other 10 pools we have less affected by the rivers. but heavy rain can get the nordley pools over flowing .
i get your point as you are not local, but anywhere i fish i always look at levels. weather. rain fall up river for miles. i would never head off to the Thames or the Trent with out checking first.
thats also the same for lakes i fish too.
where about are you based ?

Posted on November 8, 2019 at 10:51 PM

KenL

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Re: My the pool/ ukinghall

Why do the association's officers always become defensive and then attack a member who has pointed out access issues or other problems in good faith?
Surely the thing to do is acknowledge that someone travelling 120 miles can't reasonably be expected to know the water level at which a fishery might become inaccessible and look to address this issue.
This is an opportunity to work out how the association can better serve its customers after being contacted by a member and not a time to bash and belittle a paying patron.

Something as simple as including a line in the where to fish entry for each venue saying: this fishery is considered unfishable when the water level at a given gauge is above a given level.

Posted on November 26, 2019 at 12:17 PM

stew83mul

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Re: My the pool/ ukinghall

Right Ken how the hell can the BAA be to blame for Severn bursting it’s banks?In the time it’s took to log in to here and write a post to moan you could could checked one of the numerous sites that give you up to date river levels,there’s even a link to one at the bottom of the homepage is there not?

Posted on November 26, 2019 at 7:49 PM

KenL

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Re: My the pool/ ukinghall

This is what I mean about your unproductive, aggressive attitude and poor customer service.
I did not in any way suggest that the BAA is to blame for Severn bursting it’s banks and while there is indeed a link to "River and sea levels in England" on the home page, you will note that many gauges don't provide a baseline or details of the normal range at a given location - which is obviously outside of the control of the BAA. They will give some idea of when minor flooding is possible at a location but again, how is someone unfamiliar with the access points to a given fishery supposed to know whether minor flooding will impede access?

Posted on November 27, 2019 at 10:17 AM

stew83mul

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Re: My the pool/ ukinghall

Ok so you explain exactly what you would like the BAA to do to improve this?Do you ever have anything positive to say about the club?I mean surely wether you know a water or not it’s pretty obvious from the where to fish guides that some pools are right next to the river,so funnily enough when that river floods the chances are that it will effect access to that pool!That’s surely obvious to anyone wether you know the area or not?There are dozens of very simple ways to check river levels all over the internet that are regularly updated,there’s also live video feeds on bridges and locks all down the Severn.

Posted on November 27, 2019 at 2:51 PM

stew83mul

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Re: My the pool/ ukinghall

As you’ve always got so much to contribute on here I was surprised you didn’t attend the AGM Ken?

Posted on November 27, 2019 at 2:54 PM

KenL

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Re: My the pool/ ukinghall

What's the point?
The published agenda is closed with zero time allocated for members to raise or discuss issues of concern.
http://www.baa.uk.com/files/2515/7028/9365/AGM_Agenda_2019.pdf...

I suspect that even if something were raised, you'd simply employ a diversionary tactic to avoid the subject at hand, just as you have with the post above.

BTW, what's not positive about suggesting the inclusion of additional information in the where to fish guide as outlined in my first post on this thread?

Posted on November 27, 2019 at 3:36 PM

stew83mul

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Re: My the pool/ ukinghall

“ zero time allocated for members”?You weren’t even there!How can you possibly know all this if you couldn’t be bothered to turn up?My point is issues like above can be raised at this meeting by members instead of sitting behind the computer screen moaning and criticising everything the club does.

Posted on November 27, 2019 at 4:45 PM

stew83mul

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Re: My the pool/ ukinghall

If you’d bothered to read the agenda properly you would of seen that there was an open forum for members to ask questions etc after all the formal stuff was done.Perfect opportunity to put your ideas and suggestions across.

Posted on November 27, 2019 at 4:52 PM

GlenI

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Re: My the pool/ ukinghall

Without wishing to stir up the arguments any further, I do feel there is some merit in having some very rough local river levels which would affect both the fishing and the access to the location. This is something I have learnt (crudely) from experience over the years, but it isn't an exact science - on Sunday I went down to Uckinghall fully expecting to fish with the river dropping steadily but because the surrounding area has had so much flooding for so long the road was to deep and I had a wasted journey, even though the lake probably was fishable. So the lag in the draining of the local fields etc can be a factor that is hard to predict.
But a rough guide is better than nothing and is probably more reliable on a raising level - it should be pretty easy to tell when Uckinghall starts fill up when the river at Saxons Loade reaches a certain point and another level when the normal banks start to flood, and another when you can't even get to the lake. I'm happy to provide these, if someone is willing to post it on the venue details. Might take a while to note these down.
But in addition, a fantastic service I have had by Mike and Ann Wood, the bailiffs on the upper Severn is they are happy to tell you (by text) before you set off, what state the rivers is in and how it has been fishing. It is shame that for whatever reason, this isn't available for any of the lower Severn venues. I guess it is just Mike and Ann going the extra mile, and thanks to them for doing it as I have come to rely on their advice now before setting off on the long drive.

Posted on December 3, 2019 at 3:21 PM

GlenI

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Re: My the pool/ ukinghall

So following up on my offer - with the caveat that I accept no responsibility whatsoever for these suggested levels - I reckon the following applies - very roughly to Uckinghall Pool - based on the EA's Saxon Loade levels:
- water starts flowing into the pool from the pipe at about 2.1m and above
- water coming over the banks and restricting fishing access from about 2.6m and above
- access to the pool becoming an issue at about 3.5m and above
For some strange reason I used to gauge the levels based on Diglis which I realise is miles away so I have tried to convert these and will track them when there to see how these levels pan out for Saxons Loade, which is much closer, to see if they are about right.
Also note what I said in the previous post about dropping levels often having a big lag; as the land drains ie the river level may seem low enough but there is still flooding on the approach road - recently it caught me out due to prolonged floods and I had a wasted trip - albeit I did get on the river elsewhere. It also takes a good 4-5 days for the pool level to come back right down to the river level after it drops, due to the low flow through the pipe.
Hope this is useful.
Anyone else got similar levels for the other pools near the rivers?

Posted on December 6, 2019 at 8:17 AM

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