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Doddenham stretch on the Teme

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Hi all, help required. I have fished here twice this week, fished the only 2 fishable pegs to be honest, both times blanked.
Used pellets and worms but not a nibble
Has anyone had any joy down there, or is it just me.
I did see 2 otters on my second visit but I'm sure he hasn't eaten everything lol..
Any help or advice greatly received.

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Posted on September 23, 2015 at 9:22 PM

Belsh

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Re: Doddenham stretch on the Teme

Ive fished Doddenham a few times and it's just as hard as Broadwas .
The only times Ive caught were literally just as it was getting dark, you really do have to push your 'one hour after sunset' to the limit.
Maybe this is something to do with the otters, although it is common on many waters to catch this late.
Good luck and stick in there.

Posted on September 23, 2015 at 9:39 PM

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Re: Doddenham stretch on the Teme

Nice one, thanks for the reply. Couple of questions, what baits have you caught on and what have you had out if there?
I flogged it twice and had a perch and a few chublets, nothing else. Which pegs have you fished as I have only seen 2 fishable pegs there to be honest, or have I missed something.

Posted on September 23, 2015 at 9:51 PM

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Re: Doddenham stretch on the Teme

Hello again, there are a couple of pegs up by the Broadwas stretch, I expect these are the ones you've fished. I had a decent chub from the upstream peg using Spam.
There is another peg halfway along the car park field. You have to walk pretty close to the edge of the river and you will see a stepladder down onto the riverbed. This peg is unfishable when the river is up, I admit. I had another good chub from here on pellet.
It really could do with a few more pegs sorting but I know the works parties are flat out.
All the best, and let me know if you have any luck.

Posted on September 24, 2015 at 6:23 AM

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Re: Doddenham stretch on the Teme

Morning,
Yes those are the 2 i fished, as you say though, with a decent amount of water on them they become hard if not in fishable.
To be honest all 3 stretch's are hard work along there, Cotteridge, Broadway and Doddenham. I would love to know how much these waters cost us to keep!
Sometimes quality is better than quantity, what I mean by that is would it be better to keep one venue that can be looked after to a decent standard, rather than keeping 3 that have a few pegs each.
I know Braodwas has only a few pegs as well.
People will say about keeping them wild and natural and that's fine, but you don't want a broken back trying to catch a fish.
As you said the working party is only small and they can only do so much, what are your thoughts.

Posted on September 24, 2015 at 7:23 AM

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Re: Doddenham stretch on the Teme

Don't micro manage the Teme, installing platforms is a no no, buy a dog spoke and a length of rope.

It's the Teme not a commercial carp puddle.

Posted on September 24, 2015 at 10:40 PM

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Re: Doddenham stretch on the Teme

I don't believe any one mentioned micro managing the Teme, I also don't believe anyone mentioned platforms!!!
I also from fishing it myself realise its not a carp puddle!!! It's a river.. But thanks for the update!!!
However what was mentioned within this post was the access to the pegs and the quality of getting to the waters, and also quality over quantity!!
There are many venues that the BAA hold that are kept wild and natural which gives you the experience of trying to find a hole to fish in, we don't need every river venue like that, or do we?
Remember, we have members of all ages and a lot of retired people in the club, its no point holding onto to some venues that never get fished or are half impossible to get to! We still have to consider peoples welfare and safety.
It would be really interesting doing a strraw pole on who fishes which venue across a season, I'm sure the results would be really interesting.
Driving past the Teme on a daily basis, i see very few cars now days.

Posted on September 25, 2015 at 7:12 AM

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Re: Doddenham stretch on the Teme

I remember back in the 80's when the Teme would produce loads of barbel from one swim. It was my favourite water at the time and I much preferred it to the Severn.

In those days it was much less wild than it is today. There is a big difference between wild and unfishable. Lets face it the Teme is never going to provide disabled access along much of it's length. 2 swims fishable over a whole stretch means it is barely worth a visit or worth BAA keeping on as a water.

More swims do need opening up even for a loner like me. One swim fishable in every 100yards should be the minimum. I love small rivers and the challenges they present but the Teme isn't the river it used to be from an accessibility point of view.

As far as the fishing is concerned it doesn't sound like the river is a patch on what it was, maybe it will come back to it's best in a few years but it is debatable. There's not much we can do about the otters unfortunately.

Posted on September 25, 2015 at 4:52 PM

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Re: Doddenham stretch on the Teme

The Teme is a shadow of its former self, but blaming the Otter for it's decline I believe is short sighted, there are a number of factors probably, none more so than the huge flood in 2007. To date Barbel are still there and being caught, without any damaged fins, which is good news.

Posted on September 25, 2015 at 11:43 PM

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Re: Doddenham stretch on the Teme

Sillibait, you didn't actually mention putting in platforms etc, but you alluded to it, the Teme is a special river, and yes difficult access, great, that's how it should be, not for the front hearted, if deters the matches, even better.
The Otter is taking the blame for the decline, perhaps we might look at angling pressure too, there were just too many money grabbing guides in the past, that pursued the Barbel in there so called safe areas in the day, no species will tolerate that, IMO this was a major factor. The Teme will recover, and so it will start call over again, and the Otter will get the blame when we wonder why the stocks are low, never our fault is it?

Posted on September 25, 2015 at 11:57 PM

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Re: Doddenham stretch on the Teme

Sillibait, you didn't actually mention putting in platforms etc, but you alluded to it, the Teme is a special river, and yes difficult access, great, that's how it should be, not for the front hearted, if deters the matches, even better.
The Otter is taking the blame for the decline, perhaps we might look at angling pressure too, there were just too many money grabbing guides in the past, that pursued the Barbel in there so called safe areas in the day, no species will tolerate that, IMO this was a major factor. The Teme will recover, and so it will start call over again, and the Otter will get the blame when we wonder why the stocks are low, never our fault is it?

Posted on September 25, 2015 at 11:59 PM

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Re: Doddenham stretch on the Teme

Onelast cast:
I will beg to differ on our opinions: platforms on a river are a big no from me, thats why I never mentioned it, when you read a post, don't form your own opinion on it!!! I for one do not think the Teme needs or would benefit from wooden platforms,if I had thought that I would have said it in my first post.

I second what another member posted, Curry. Having 2 fishable pegs on one stretch, is it worth keeping it on the books.
You seem to be missing the point I originally was making. Yes, I agree with natural waters, hard to fish venues, a challenging water, but we don't want 80% of the waters inaccessible, or do we in your opinion!!
As for the otters, its nature!! We can't and should not control nature.
Your posts seem to completely miss the point originally made, would quality over quantity be a better option for the BAA? Just out of interest, do you help out with the working party or do you think they should leave well alone and let the banks grow wild on all venues? You seem to have alluded to that in your posts!!

Posted on September 26, 2015 at 8:27 AM

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Re: Doddenham stretch on the Teme

Seems like we have in common a few points, especially Otter, and platforms. We should bear in mind the Teme is trying to recover, and probably benefits from 'neglect' ,and there are some improvements. There were just too many Barbel in the river, and this attracted too many anglers, John Wilson, Trevor West and the rest all did features for TV and mags, it really was like a magnet. It was no surprise that something had to give.
The Otter has played a part I am sure.
When you look at what Dave Mason did to improve his bit of the river, then that should be the template for others to follow, I don't think BAA will ever be so conservation minded to be the right guardians of this river, and you might be right if they let go of some of the stretches it would not be a bad thing. There again the Barbel Society seem not to put enough emphasis on their stretch, and is often barren of anglers, preferring the easy pickings that is Pixham.
Of course the EA should be doing more, but this is a classic case of turning the other way, no answers come from them, nothing, so all we can do is speculate, sad isn't it?

Posted on September 26, 2015 at 1:13 PM

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Re: Doddenham stretch on the Teme

Well I thought I'd put my thoughts in ... I've fished here since we got the stretch.. I'm local so it's perfect for a 2 hr quick session after work etc.. So far fished 5 lovely pegs!!! Chub up to 4lb lots of smaller ones constantly nibbling.. And a few nice barbel.. The one I caught last week was 15 feet from the otter I'd been watching for 2 minutes nearly missing the rod going over!!!!!
I like the fact it's natural overgrown as some say.. And not overfished .. I'm shooting myself in the foot I know as I'm sure the more people criticise a venue the less ppl come and so by saying its great it will get more attention.
I will say this though.. The 2 " fishable" pegs spoken of seem to be getting used a lot and signs of bank damage by US THE ANGLERS are showing.. Within the last two weeks someone has taken a spade and for no reason dug a square hole and several steps into a very soft and crumbly bank!!!! No need at all!! This will erode the bank in winter badly and wash the peg away ... And to top it off last night I fished there to find an empty SPAM tin , razor sharp edges for our resident otter... Not pointing fingers but... C'mon you muppets stop pointing fingers and moaning .. It's us that have ruined the Teme!!!!!

Posted on October 3, 2015 at 9:16 AM

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Re: Doddenham stretch on the Teme

Can anyone confirm that the problems from Cotheridge are sorted?

Don't mean the fishing or lack of them, I can deal with blanking. However I can blank elsewhere without getting attacked by mountain goats, or having my car licked to death by camels.

Cheers

Posted on October 8, 2015 at 2:24 PM

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Re: Doddenham stretch on the Teme

Cotheridge is fine now. Fences mended and dodgy gates removed.

Posted on October 8, 2015 at 3:23 PM

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