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GlenI Total Posts: 99 Joined: January 16, 2016	Hi, Noted the notification about adding Dyofix blue to Stubbs and Uckinghall but was wondering if it would stop the lillies growing, as the Dyofix website says it stops light reaching submerged weed, but of course the lillies sit on the top. Or perhaps is works by stopping them growing to the top in the first place? Has anybody fished it since and has it made any difference to the fishing - must have been anglers on there in the sun of the recent weekend. Would be a shame if it stops all the lillies growing though, as surely this is a good source of food for the fish. Might be worth trying in Mythe as that lake is full of weed in the summer. Tags: Posted on April 10, 2017 at 1:43 PM

AlurnS Total Posts: 53 Joined: July 7, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue Glen, I agree with you; as I commented on the FB page when it was announced, the use of Dyofix feels like a sledgehammer being used to crack a nut, particularly in the case of Uckinghall which is the pond I have most experience of. I would have thought that it would have been better to simply drag out swims once the lilies are up, rather than try and kill them all off, thus removing habitat for invertebrates and food/spawning cover for fish (and somewhere to hide from the many cormorants that pay regular visits on their way up and down the Severn). I like Uckinghall because a) being a pond that's been left to fend for itself rather than be stocked to overflowing, it's more of a challenge than a commercial, and b) the lilies are an obvious feature to fish around; you can often see the fronds being pushed around by tench and the few carp that live in the lake - not to mention the pike - as they move through them. 10 minutes with a rake head on the end of a rope and you'd have plenty of space in which to fish. Instead an option is chosen that threatens to completely alter the ecosystem of the lake. We have a responsibility to respect and protect the fragile environments we share for our pleasure. I for one hope it doesn't work. Posted on April 10, 2017 at 2:38 PM
GlenI Total Posts: 99 Joined: January 16, 2016	Re: Dyofix blue I did rake out a swim last summer (it was hard work and noisy) but have to say within a few days the gap had been filled in a again so I can see why the working party would want to try it - the lilies have been taking over the lake and quite a few anglers have been vocal about it on this forum. I just hope it simply keeps them in check, rather than kills them entirely. At the end of the day it is probably just an experiment and nature will return things to normal after a few months (3 months according to the website). I actually fish Uckinghall in preference to Mythe in the summer as the bottom weed is so deep there by summer. Let's see if it pays off. Not sure how weird it looks though and will be interesting to see how the fish react - allegedly they come into the margins more, but they usually do anyway when it's quiet. I also know someone with a small 1 acre pond which has had fish dying due to blanket weed choking the water to a black stinking mess - seems this product is more suited to that situation. Don't know why they did it to Stubbs as I don't think it is fished much now anyway for various reasons. Posted on April 10, 2017 at 4:41 PM
onelastcast Total Posts: 820 Joined: July 4, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue Walked around Uckinghall Saturday, no sign of Lillies, but my take on is is leave them alone!! What a nice change to see some water plants rather than a muddy hole of a carp pit? They provide natural food and refuge/ shelter to all species, if you want to worry about removing anything how about the Zander back into the river? Posted on April 10, 2017 at 6:37 PM
onelastcast Total Posts: 820 Joined: July 4, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue Walked around Uckinghall Saturday, no sign of Lillies, but my take on is is leave them alone!! What a nice change to see some water plants rather than a muddy hole of a carp pit? They provide natural food and refuge/ shelter to all species, if you want to worry about removing anything how about the Zander back into the river? Posted on April 10, 2017 at 6:38 PM
stew83mul Total Posts: 663 Joined: May 30, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue As far as I know the amount that has been used is very small in relation to the size of the pools and is intended to limit the weed growth rather the completely irradicate it.But like was mentioned before it's at a trial and error stage at the moment.I think the problem is that too many pegs were completely unfishable when the weed was at its worst. Posted on April 10, 2017 at 6:56 PM
KenL Total Posts: 280 Joined: December 27, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue Disgusting environmental vandalism. If I wanted to fish a weed free muddy hole in the ground, I'd go visit any one of the dozens of commercial "fisheries" that are closer than Uckinghall. Posted on April 11, 2017 at 12:07 AM
stew83mul Total Posts: 663 Joined: May 30, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue Ken I wish you would read into comments and a few facts about what has actually been done before commenting.The amount that has been used is very small and is intended to just limit the weed growth not completely remove it all.Yet again it shows the whatever the baa seem to do they get criticised,you've got dozens of people moaning about there being too much weed and too many pegs are unfishable then you've got others saying to leave it,the baa meet halfway and just try and limit it and still get criticised!Just no pleasing some people! Posted on April 11, 2017 at 7:50 AM
onelastcast Total Posts: 820 Joined: July 4, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue Hi Stew hope you are well..just remembered we chatted recently....I do sympathise with Ken, although you say that this substance is not a problen in small doses, I think we should leave well alone,as I suggested this plant growth...any plant growth in Ponds is a good thing, and is a positive. The way Uckinghall was fishing, or rather not last Saturday was a concern. Despite all anglers mostly using a pole they were all struggling. Now I know it's still early season, but the warmer spell we have had should have meant some better fishing. I have seen good Roach come out in March in colder conditions, on Waggler!!! My worries are these Roach shoals have been predated on by the Zander, so any help that cover could afford would be a good thing? It's a small pool to have such big preds in, and could seriously undermine the stock, some action is needed I suspect. Perhaps the Zander could be returned from whence they came, no doubt through the faulty sluice? Posted on April 11, 2017 at 8:29 AM
stew83mul Total Posts: 663 Joined: May 30, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue As mentioned earlier the intention is to keep the weed under control so more pegs are fishable,not completely kill off all the weeds and other plant life.As for the zander I get where you are coming from but can you imagine the uproar from the predator anglers that go there specifically to target the zander if they were removed?Also im not sure of the law about the movement of fish from a private pool to a river,especially when it's a non native species like zander. Posted on April 11, 2017 at 11:17 AM
onelastcast Total Posts: 820 Joined: July 4, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue There are plenty of Zander in the Severn, what concerns me they came in there from the River and wreaking havoc on the stock.It doesn't do the Zander any good or of course the resident stock. Are we so in awe of match angling requirements that all such plants are to be 'controlled? If anything we should be looking at encouraging new plants, there are large areas of the pool that is clear, it's just around the car park pegs that have the 'problem'. I appreciate these ponds adjacent to the Severn do exchange fish, but the faulty sluice is doing the pool no favours at all .I am sure that a a licence could be had to remove from the pool back to the river, but we need BAA admin to confirm if feasible. Posted on April 11, 2017 at 12:25 PM
onelastcast Total Posts: 820 Joined: July 4, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue There are plenty of Zander in the Severn, what concerns me they came in there from the River and wreaking havoc on the stock.It doesn't do the Zander any good or of course the resident stock. Are we so in awe of match angling requirements that all such plants are to be 'controlled? If anything we should be looking at encouraging new plants, there are large areas of the pool that is clear, it's just around the car park pegs that have the 'problem'. I appreciate these ponds adjacent to the Severn do exchange fish, but the faulty sluice is doing the pool no favours at all .I am sure that a a licence could be had to remove from the pool back to the river, but we need BAA admin to confirm if feasible. Posted on April 11, 2017 at 12:26 PM
stew83mul Total Posts: 663 Joined: May 30, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue I'm not sure what the controlling of weed growth has to do with match fishing?Lets face it it's not a prolific match venue is it?The simple fact is that half of the pool was unfishable so the baa have taken action to keep the weed under control,not completely remove all plant life!I really do think people are overeating when nobody has given it a chance to work or not.The thing is no matter what the baa do there is someone that won't be happy,it's difficult to please all the members all the time..Some people want the weed removed others want it left alone,as with the zander,the predator anglers who go to specifically target zander there will be pretty p'd off if all of the zanderwere removed but then there's the people like yourself that want them removed.It really is difficult to please everyone. Posted on April 11, 2017 at 1:22 PM
onelastcast Total Posts: 820 Joined: July 4, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue The reason I want them removed is that the pond is small and is unable to sustain such an apex predator, those Zeds belong in the Severn. I do/did OK there on the odd occasion I fished there with good nets of Roach, be a shame if the stocks are wiped out, of course the Zeds would die too. BAA get a lot of match fees from the venue, anyone on the BAA committee wish to comment/ advise? Posted on April 11, 2017 at 3:39 PM
stew83mul Total Posts: 663 Joined: May 30, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue I'm on the committee and like I said before there are people that go there just to fish for the zander so it's obviously going to upset them were the zander to be removed.I understand your concerns about the silver fish stocks and I will bring it up at the next committee meeting.The thing is though I can imagine what the predator anglers will say "the baa are catering for match anglers again".You just can't please everyone. Posted on April 11, 2017 at 3:46 PM
stew83mul Total Posts: 663 Joined: May 30, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue Also nature tends to even itself out with predators...at least that's what we are told when the subject of otters is brought up! Posted on April 11, 2017 at 3:48 PM
mixer Total Posts: 61 Joined: September 17, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue I live very close to Uckinghall and have fished it regularly for the past ten years. Despite me going on about the ingress of river water nothing has been done. I know that Ken was prepared to replace the flap to prevent flooding but the powers that be were worried about the unstable bank between the pool and the river. An utter load of s***. Colin Townsends words not mine when i spoke to him last week. A few years back Carp anglers were all over the pool. Not now. the majority of Carp have gone down the pipe to be replaced by bleak and zander.The lilys do need controlling but it seems a pointless exercise because the once thriving stock of roach,bream and tench will be decimated and then the zander will move out when the river gets in again and the association will be left with a barren pool. Uckinghall has never been a popular match venue unlike the Mythe but until 2 years ago was a venue where big bags of bream and tench were not uncommon for the individual angler. Sadly those days are gone. There is one solution. Get rid of the zander and stop the pool flooding every time the river rises.Almost 10 years now since the river flooded the pool other than through that FAULTY PIPE. Posted on April 11, 2017 at 4:57 PM
onelastcast Total Posts: 820 Joined: July 4, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue Stu you are on the committee great thank you for responding, however I was hoping for a better response than that tbh,. The pool is being wiped out by Zander, and surprise surprise many of us don't fish for Zander and if I did I have the Severn which is stuffed full of 'em. That pool held some nice Roach Perch and the odd Carp, and how many times do people have to say that the 'flippin gert big hole in the bank is not helping, what club/ body Association would allow that to happen depriving it's members of a lovely day's fishing for the Roach, which I for one always looked forward too, as many others did/do. I know BAA committee can be stubborn and not action what is just after all is common sense, but this is taking the pee, REPAIR THE SLUICE, it will not damage the bank, the cost is minimal and as I understand members have offered both financial and material help in getting it repaired... The can't please everyone comment Wow, the only reason that this fishery is being wiped out is because of the Zander are accessing thru the sluice, we need action not fence sitting. Posted on April 11, 2017 at 6:24 PM
onelastcast Total Posts: 820 Joined: July 4, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue Stu you are on the committee great thank you for responding, however I was hoping for a better response than that tbh,. The pool is being wiped out by Zander, and surprise surprise many of us don't fish for Zander and if I did I have the Severn which is stuffed full of 'em. That pool held some nice Roach Perch and the odd Carp, and how many times do people have to say that the 'flippin gert big hole in the bank is not helping, what club/ body Association would allow that to happen depriving it's members of a lovely day's fishing for the Roach, which I for one always looked forward too, as many others did/do. I know BAA committee can be stubborn and not action what is just after all is common sense, but this is taking the pee, REPAIR THE SLUICE, it will not damage the bank, the cost is minimal and as I understand members have offered both financial and material help in getting it repaired... The can't please everyone comment Wow, the only reason that this fishery is being wiped out is because of the Zander are accessing thru the sluice, we need action not fence sitting. Posted on April 11, 2017 at 6:26 PM
mixer Total Posts: 61 Joined: September 17, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue Well said one last cast--enough is enough.The association spent 60k repairing the bank recently,the EA spent god knows how much increasing the height of the flood bank in 2015 and all the time the stock fish in the pool are being decimated. What would the reaction be if Zander were suddenly found to be in Coppice. Posted on April 11, 2017 at 8:28 PM