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Following on from the destruction of the bankside and illegal raising of the weir the farmer has completely destroyed the far bank trees and vegetation that made this stretch not only a lovely place to fish but a perfect habitat on a river those who have fished for any length of time will verify as being a shadow of it's former self. I'm horrified that someone could do this to the environment and be the master over so much of it. EA are looking into it but I don't hold out much hope despite the fact that this work should never have been carried out between March and August due to nesting birds.
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Posted on April 6, 2020 at 8:15 PM
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Re: Marlcliff further habitat destruction
They grow back.It stops them from growing so big that they become top heavy and collapse.
Watch this (all of it) : -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzrWVOPrhe8... ((pollarding willows)).
To be honest it might give the stretch in question a bit of a rest 'cos the barbel addicts hammer the weir pool pegs out of sight from early season onwards. They might have to look a bit further than the end of their noses to catch fish instead of just plonking down in the known pegs all the time.
Tight lines,
Paul H.
Posted on April 12, 2020 at 9:14 PM
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Re: Marlcliff further habitat destruction
I understand the concept of polard trees......but cutting them down is another matter..
Posted on April 13, 2020 at 11:08 AM
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Re: Marlcliff further habitat destruction
Come back in 12 months.
Posted on April 13, 2020 at 11:43 AM
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Re: Marlcliff further habitat destruction
I will ...but that’s 12 months away........
Posted on April 13, 2020 at 2:41 PM
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Re: Marlcliff further habitat destruction
The stumps remain, out of which, new growth will sprout (see photo). Thus spoke the Lord. OK, so I made the last bit up, but you get the idea. Or have I been playing with 'Photoshop'?
Posted on April 14, 2020 at 11:34 AM
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Re: Marlcliff further habitat destruction
In an era where predation seems to be at its peak, taking away vital cover means that fish stocks will be massively vulnerable. I suspect that the cover won't be the same in 12 months time. What is frustrating is that 'things' seem to happen on BAA stretches and nothing ever seems to be done and no engagement made.
Posted on April 15, 2020 at 9:33 PM
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Re: Marlcliff further habitat destruction
Well said Lee.
When it comes to cutting bank bankside veg environmental agencies and some land owners are so backward, they give contractors a job and it's like "yeah chop the lot" Yes it does grow back but not after every fish in the stretch is exposed to predators for a whole year at least. The equivalent would be to cut a wild field of all it's grass an expect all the voles to cope. A field day for predators
Why can't these things be done with nature in mind, I've seen whole stretches of club waters ruined by over zealous chainsaw work when they could have left a couple of points of cover as refuge
Posted on April 16, 2020 at 9:38 AM
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Re: Marlcliff further habitat destruction
Exactly the same right up the Staffs-Worc canal,CRT dredged the bottom and cut off all overhanging trees and bushes and ruined some cracking pegs.Not only does it give the fish no shelter it ruins nesting spots for a lot of birds too.Seems all they care about is the boaters.
Posted on April 16, 2020 at 3:18 PM
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Re: Marlcliff further habitat destruction
Wag and mag.....no mate I don’t think you’ve been using photoshop, if you was I think you could of came up with a much better example than that 3 foot bush.....hardly a great justification of the devastation up at marcliff...no way will them trees have grown back to the standard they were before in 12 months , by which time the fish stocks will have been devoured or just move on to better shelter. The bottom line is your looking at at least 5 years before this venue will recover to its former glory , if ever ?...in the last 40 years if seen this many times on many venues both baa and other association waters up and down the country.....I will go back in 12 months and I will upload some photos and then we will see......
Posted on April 22, 2020 at 10:58 AM
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Re: Marlcliff further habitat destruction
The thing is with willows if you don't cut them right back, you find yourself having to cut them again soon after
We do it at our club. There's 2 guys on maintenance covering 6 lakes and river lengths, and amongst other work, there isn't time to keep going back re-doing what's already been done earlier in the year.
We'd all like our waters manicured, but the reality is having to compromise. You can't fish swims that are badly overgrown, but you can if cut back.
You'll be surperised how big Wagandmags tree will be by July
Posted on April 23, 2020 at 6:02 AM
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Re: Marlcliff further habitat destruction
I cannot believe that any angler would even try and condone this habitat destruction! Lets see what the implications are;
• Destabilisation of the riverbank leading to collapse and silting
• Silting up of gravel spawning beds
• Removal of buffer zone between agricultural land and the river
• Reduction in pollutants removed by the buffer, for example phosphates
• Source of food for animals and fish
• Disturbing otters
• Disturbing wild birds (including nesting at this time of year)
• Removal of shade promoting heating of the river and excessive weed growth
• Removal of refuge for fish and fry from flooding
• Removal of refuge for fish and fry from predation
• Speeding up the river in times of raised river levels leading to increased risk of flooding further downstream (especially Evesham where there is a constriction)
This is not managing, this is destruction and that the landowner is likely in receipt of payments to manage the riparian vegetation makes matters worse. This vegetation has been of no issue for many years why destroy it? The harm to the fishery will be long term, it will not quickly grow back see attached photos from 4 years ago! I don't hold much hope the EA will actually get anything done but at least they are equally outraged.
To show just how 'fast' it grows back image 2059 is me fishing in 2015. The area was cut in 2016 and 4 years later looks like image 1308. The chub shoal has not returned either, strange that.
Posted on April 23, 2020 at 2:03 PM
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Re: Marlcliff further habitat destruction
Well I think that’s puts the lid on this discussion.....12 months my arse....
Posted on April 24, 2020 at 10:22 AM
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Re: Marlcliff further habitat destruction
This (photo) might prompt a few bites.
Your arse ? It's not my fault if your face looks like your arse.
Posted on May 5, 2020 at 10:39 AM
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Re: Marlcliff further habitat destruction
Wagandmag is that photo from just above the car park at Barton?If it is I reported it to the fisheries team when I was there before the floods but obviously all work has had to be put on hold at the moment.
Posted on May 5, 2020 at 12:56 PM
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Re: Marlcliff further habitat destruction
Obviously needs removing because it’s ruined two pegs.Think this a different situation to further downstream though as discussed above.
Posted on May 5, 2020 at 12:58 PM
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Re: Marlcliff further habitat destruction
So wagandmag, are you saying all trees should be removed as they might come down or otherwise get in your way? I cannot believe any angler would condone this destruction.
Posted on May 5, 2020 at 5:22 PM
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Re: Marlcliff further habitat destruction
Lads we all know this destructive works are wrong but it’s no good arguing with him . Once he realised he was wrong he turns into one of them childish keyboard warriors and starts typing insults just to get a reaction....well you all know type of child we’re dealing with...
Posted on May 7, 2020 at 7:16 PM
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