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new to the rivers

Bigbadjoe

Bigbadjoe
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Joined: November 17, 2019

Hi, i have just become a member of the baa because id like to start river fishing so after looking in to the where to fish section and reading pretty much all the venues and the descriptions back in september i decided to give the Anker on Bolehall a go, it was pretty high but i gave it ago with what knowledge i have after being there 3 to 4 hours i just thought im wasting my time here and left since then i have traveled to a few places but it just looks like flood water, but nowhere on the website says no point fishing anywhere cos its all flooded so im presuming somewhere or some how the venues that baa has to offer are still fishable, today i decided to go to the mease in harleston because looking at description it says best fished in late summer and winter when theres more water in the river when i got there i knew id wasted my time the water again was flooded with barely any decent access over grown thorn bushes trees broke and half way in the water just terrible really so are these places monitored by baa or are most places going to be like this at this time of year have i wasted money on becoming a member surely it should be put up on the website that most place cant be fished rather then letting people waste time and money, can anyone give me any useful info of where to fish this time of year when the waters are higher ?
many thanks

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Posted on November 24, 2019 at 2:03 AM

stewpar

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Joined: May 3, 2016

Re: new to the rivers

Hi and welcome, you can still catch on a flooded river most species will oblige. I'm not familiar with the 2 rivers you mentioned but I think my local river stour is similar, rises quickly when it rains but drops just as fast if we have no rain for 24 hours previously then its fish able. Big rivers are a bit different but find a peg with a bit of slack or steady water then you have a chance. Use the ea river levels website at least it will give you an idea what to expect.

Posted on November 24, 2019 at 10:21 AM

mickgrove

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Re: new to the rivers

Welcome to this forum and to the challenge of river fishing. Winter can be very frustrating for the river fisherman as big rivers present a totally different challenge at this time of the year compared to summer. Previous post is spot on - smaller rivers like the Stour rise and fall very quickly and can fish very well in winter if you pick your time carefully. The Severn now has about 5 feet of water on, compared to summer levels and unfortunately unless we have a very dry spell, will remain fairly high over the next few months. Appreciate that you are keen to get out and catch a few fish, but not sure what the BAA can do about abnormally wet autumns and rivers that are unfishable. There is plenty of information on the web about river levels - the BAA lease waters on behalf of the members, but cannot legislate for conditions. I think most river fisherman accept that realistically, their main season runs from June to November, with a few session during the winter, when conditions allow.

Posted on November 24, 2019 at 1:59 PM

Tonythefish

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Joined: July 21, 2016

Re: new to the rivers

Welcome to the forum, which can be very helpful, in making the right decisions on where and when to fish certain venues. I have fished the Anker, Mease, and Trent baa fisherys quite recently. All three are nowhere near, as good as they were a few years ago. This mirrors a lot of baa waters in general. A mixture of predation, abstraction, and general water quality, have combined to give a slowly deteriorating fishing situation. The middle Severn is an exception, to this and summer time from Bewdley to Bridgenorth can be very productive. Don't get me wrong, the Baa ticket is a great investment at £40 quid. Also this deteriation is across all river venues, in general. So river fishing is far more difficult than it was, say 15 or20 years ago. Having said that, when you do catch,you should get greater satisfaction from it. I don't know how bad it has to get before the E A realise there is a big problem, and try and address it. All the Baa can do meantime is monitor the situation and lobby the EA to try to improve the situation. It is quite critical, to select the right venue on the right day. River levels and temperature are key to the difference between a decent day and a bad one. Keep the faith, try and get as much info as you can, from as many sources as you can.

Posted on November 24, 2019 at 4:44 PM

barbelcatcher

barbelcatcher
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Joined: October 4, 2019

Re: new to the rivers

Fish can still be caught in high water conditions, Barbel will feed in mild conditions even with 10 or 12ft of flood water in the river, whats needed is lots of experience of where the fish will be, safety should be priority in these conditions, only fish where you feel safe, large lumps of meat work in high coloured water, worms might be worth a go, the upper Severn drops a lot faster than downstream, so a trip to the river around the Welshpool area might be worth a go, the upper river is on my doorstep, so having fished it for over 40 years i have a good idea where to head when the Severn is up.

Posted on November 24, 2019 at 8:20 PM

Robhol1

Robhol1
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Joined: May 7, 2016

Re: new to the rivers

Hi , you could have a look on YouTube there’s a few informative videos on fishing flooded rivers,sorting out the typical pegs that are fishable and may contain a few fish My best day on the warks Avon was when it was bank high I had four barbel over 10lb so don’t be too put off and good luck

Posted on November 24, 2019 at 9:43 PM

Brummymoorey

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Total Posts: 65
Joined: December 31, 2018

Re: new to the rivers

I stopped match fishing 3 years ago to spend more time on the rivers. I've had more blank days in those 3 years than I had in the previous 40. River fishing during the summer is challenging enough, but winter fishing, in flood conditions is an art form in itself. Set yourself a challenge every outing....one chub, one barbell, etc, because more often than not you will be fishing for 1 bite!!!
As for the state of the rivers and its banks.......the river is forever changing due to floods. Where there were once no snags can get full of them very quickly. And the bankside vegetation is a never-ending battle. Unless cows are present in the fields things quickly get overgrown. The BAA have miles and miles of river, it would be impossible to clear every peg. You soon get to know the best areas because they are fished regular and therefore are naturally kept clear. Find a local stretch to you that you want to fish regular and clear a couple of pegs yourself, and keep them clear for others to enjoy. If we all did that there would be hundreds of fishable pegs available every week.
As for fish stocks.....predators and immigration im afraid

Posted on November 25, 2019 at 9:59 AM

Robhol1

Robhol1
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Joined: May 7, 2016

Re: new to the rivers

Spot on with the predators Brummy seen an otter at wasperton on Saturday and quite a few cormorants at stackllands today, also anyone going to stacklands the gate is padlocked

Posted on November 25, 2019 at 8:00 PM

bcfc_4life

bcfc_4life
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Joined: August 21, 2018

Re: new to the rivers

Great reply tonythefish

Posted on November 26, 2019 at 8:42 PM

bcfc_4life

bcfc_4life
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Joined: August 21, 2018

Re: new to the rivers

big bad joe - I live in Tamworth and have tried my hand at both the Anker and Mease - they’re very very hard waters , so don’t get irate.

I highly recommend a trip to Fladbury or anywhere on the mid Severn!

Good luck, and if you’re still stuck on the rivers, feel free to engage me at any time and I will try give you some pointers

Posted on November 26, 2019 at 8:45 PM

Bigbadjoe

Bigbadjoe
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Joined: November 17, 2019

Re: new to the rivers

hi guys, i am so grateful for the replies i've had from you all, it really does help wasn't even sure i would get a response so thank you, i am totally new to river fishing i have only been a handful of times and a few of those were as a kid on just a stick float catching stickleback, i do appreciate that its not an easy game and a lot of patience will be needed but this is why i want to take it up because its a lot more challenging than going on a lake stocked full of carp although il always have a love for that, but i just know that once ive sussed out a good portion of whats got to be done on the river then it will be a new love affair, im literally starting from scratch so im clueless at the minute. and yes ive been watching a few youtube videos they are a great help bit of an advantage really to have youtube nowadays, and i agree with you about clearing a couple of pegs id definitely be willing to do that not just for myself but for other anglers too its a great idea, once again tho lads thank you for all your replies its given me a bit of confidence in Baa now and il keep up the good fight

Posted on November 26, 2019 at 10:23 PM

Brummymoorey

Brummymoorey
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Joined: December 31, 2018

Re: new to the rivers

Once the weather settles down and the rivers get back to something like the normal you should start catching on the stick float if that's you're favourite method...it is mine.
Everything seems to be about barbel these days, but Ive had some great days catching chub, dace roach perch and grayling on the float.
I don't know where you live but the River Tame around Tamworth, close to our BAA water on the Anker is a better stretch. Think Kingsbury AC own it

Posted on November 27, 2019 at 7:07 AM

Bigbadjoe

Bigbadjoe
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Joined: November 17, 2019

Re: new to the rivers

i do enjoy float fishing but i will be using the method feeder il leave the float fishing until summer where i shall probably do a bit of both, any tips on lure fishing id love to try it on the river any tips ?and does anybody know to a good BAA stretch ? and im guessing it would be better to uses a heavier rod and decent size lures rather than what im use to using on canals and reservoirs ?

Posted on November 28, 2019 at 1:52 AM

Bigbadjoe

Bigbadjoe
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Joined: November 17, 2019

Re: new to the rivers

does anybody else find that the directions and maps aren't the best either luckily we have google maps to break the code

Posted on November 28, 2019 at 2:06 AM

onelastcast

onelastcast
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Joined: July 4, 2015

Re: new to the rivers

Big... The beauty of rivers over commercial ponds are that they are overgrown in places, you have to have a different mindset on rivers. Cover is essential on rivers, and the problems we have is too much cutting down trees etc. The BAA is not perfect but they do a good job with mainenence overall, but I don't need platforms a bare banks I avoid these places. The maps are OK , besides it is the rights of passage for all new members to get lost at times, and negotiate the rutted tracks that would test a Sherman tank. BAA have large areas of unfished river sections, or match venues if you wish, all for peanuts too.
Barbel are my target species, although numbers are down they are still there, I have had a few doubles to over 15lb on both the Severn and Avon, the Severn hold huge Bream , and cracking Roach. Oh! and catfish nudging 100lb.
Once you get into the river scene there is no going back, but as I said you need to re focus.

Posted on November 28, 2019 at 9:32 AM

RiverNovice

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Total Posts: 83
Joined: August 21, 2018

Re: new to the rivers

Any one joining the BAA will be spoiled for choice of what rivers and venues to fish . What species of fish will you target ? If you are after Barbel then try the Lower Severn at Severn Stoke . Fish up to 15 lbs have been caught . Another stretch worth trying is the W/Avon at Nafford ? Barbel up to 15 lbs have been caught there , Plus a number of 13 lb plus fish .

The middle Severn is also worth a try for Barbel , Chub and Roach
The Lower Severn also holds huge shoals of Bream if you can find them ?

Plenty of other places to fish on the W/Avon which hold Barbel /Chub /Roach etc etc .

Posted on November 29, 2019 at 11:08 AM

onelastcast

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Re: new to the rivers

Troll alert.

Posted on November 29, 2019 at 1:31 PM

RiverNovice

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Joined: August 21, 2018

Re: new to the rivers

IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

Posted on December 1, 2019 at 10:10 PM

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