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Why oh why are the platforms at some venues so high above low water level?
Blackstone is a prime example!
Some of them are close to six feet up in the air.
Now I know we have floods, but when the Severn is flowing at that height virtually no one fishes it.
Very high platforms are not easy to fish and worse still, if you had a really good day and caught say 40lbs of bream, how the hell would you lift them out without doing damage to your net or worse, to the fish.
If you were on your own it is possible you may even fail to get your net out at all.
Even if you were with others there is no room on a platform for two people to haul out a bulging keepnet.
I would suggest that an absolute maximum of three foot above low water would be more realistic with two foot even better..
If you can choose your peg, the river at this height is still just about fishable, on a match maybe not.
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Posted on March 26, 2019 at 5:48 AM
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Re: Platforms set too high off water!
Come on give the guys some credit!They’ve put the work in to provide members with a platform to fish from and these volunteers work hard week in week out to make our fisheries a better,more comfortable place to fish yet all you can do is criticise and make negative comments!Surely you should realise that the middle Severn has levels that fluctuate massively in a short space of time depending on the weather conditions.Feel free to join the work party who give their own time on a weekly basis to give your input on how they should do their work.
Posted on March 28, 2019 at 8:22 PM
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Re: Platforms set too high off water!
Obviously you have never had the experience of a a decent bag of fish where you have had to lift it up several feet.
I have and I can tell you it was not a good feeling.
Since that day I avoid, if I can, high-off-the-water-pegs.
My main concern is the welfare of the fish.
Anything above about 20lbs becomes an impossible exercise unless a person is super strong and it absolutely damages the fish.
Believe me, I do appreciate all the work done by our volunteers, but l I think I am correct in stating that the platforms are not built by our volunteers, but are paid for out of BAA funds.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Struggling to lift a large amount of fish gives ammunition to those who would like to see fishing banned and I sure don't want that.
Do you?
Posted on March 29, 2019 at 6:05 AM
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Re: Platforms set too high off water!
If that’s the case then don’t fish off the platforms!I have on many occasions got down into the river by the side or below the platforms when it’s been low.Obviousley the materials used are paid for by the BAA but that wasn’t what I said.My point was the fisheries team carry out all the work on a voluntary basis,and yes they are built by them too.
Posted on March 29, 2019 at 10:50 AM
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Re: Platforms set too high off water!
The BAA pay people to build platforms, not only for the materials.
I know this because I actually have friends who have been paid to do it.
It is a while ago now, but they were paid £45.00 per platform!
I think they did Pershore right bank!
As for climbing down, if you want to risk that, it's your risk, your problem.
When you get old it is not possible, as one day you will find out.
Posted on March 31, 2019 at 6:12 PM
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Re: Platforms set too high off water!
I get some of your points but it frustrates me when issues are approached with such negative,critical attitudes.Feel free to join the lads who are out twice a week this time of year,out of their own time making the fisheries a better more comfortable place for all members to fish.
You talk about age which I accept is an issue with fishing certain pegs but on the subject the fisheries team are all retired and I’m pretty sure the youngest in his late 60’s!As you said it was a while ago when they used to pay other people to construct platforms as I know they build them themselves now.
Posted on March 31, 2019 at 7:52 PM
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Re: Platforms set too high off water!
You keep on about the volunteers who I have the utmost respect for, but not once do you seem to consider the protection and safety of the fish.
This was and still is, as I have already stated, the main reason I consider a lower positioning of fishing platforms to be of utmost concern.
I REPEAT WHAT I HAVE ALREADY SAID BEFORE. LIFTING A HEAVY BAG OF FISH STRAIGHT UP ABSOLUTELY DOES DAMAGE TO THE FISH AND MAYBE THE KEEPNET - PERIOD!
Any fool should know that this is exactly what happens and gives the anti-fishing brigade ammunition to their efforts to ban fishing.
We are not protecting our fish stocks to the best of our ability by having high-off-the-water fishing platforms.
This is my last post on this subject!
Posted on March 31, 2019 at 8:31 PM
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Re: Platforms set too high off water!
Tracker,
Two solutions to your problem:-
1. Don't use a keepnet.
2. FIsh somewhere else.
Some anglers (like me), will run to the river when there's six feet on it, and those higher platforms will provide a safer place to fish when it's raging through.
JC
Posted on March 31, 2019 at 8:47 PM
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Re: Platforms set too high off water!
Surely a keepnet full of fish is the same weight whether it’s lifted 2 feet or 5 feet off the ground?You’v still got to lift the net out of the water whatever height it is unless you drag it up the bank.
Also with a river like the middle Severn the levels are up and down on a regular basis,this along with the make up of individual pegs could make it difficult to get the platforms at the perfect level.I will have a look when I am down there and pass your concerns on to the fisheries team if need be.
Posted on March 31, 2019 at 8:59 PM
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Re: Platforms set too high off water!
Also modern keepnets have internal handles to prevent fish being rolled down the net and to assist in lifting it out the water.
Posted on March 31, 2019 at 9:04 PM
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Re: Platforms set too high off water!
Me again when I said I had written my last reply but when Mr Care gives such a naff post I have to answer it.
To quote ''don't use a keepnet'', ''go somewhere else''
So Mr Care, what do you do on a match when you draw a peg six foot or more above the water?
And stew83mul, I don't think you have ever have to pull up a bag of fish over 20lbs straight up several feet.
I have and it is not the same as being two foot or less above the water, where you swim the fish down to the mouth of the net and give a quick lift out onto the bank.
I would say 30lbs would be almost impossible to lift unless you are super strong.
Also if the internal handles are six feet below your feet, how to you manage to reach them?
I have fished the Danery many times over the years and some of the platforms are so high you can barely reach the water to land a fish even with a ten foot landing net handle.
Posted on March 31, 2019 at 11:31 PM
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Funny how you seem to know so much about what I have or haven’t caught Tracker despite not knowing me.I can assure you I lift more nets with 50lb in every week than you think.I weigh in most of our club matches i’ll lift 100’s of pounds of fish out every week in the summer so don’t make out you know what I catch or that I don’t know what I’m on about.You have been offered several solutions and I’ve offered to have a look and pass your concerns on to the fisheries team.Ypu really don’t need to get so worked up about a few platforms being higher up than you’d like them,there are much more serious issues in angling at the moment that are a threat to fish
Posted on April 1, 2019 at 6:45 AM
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Re: Platforms set too high off water!
Looking at the weigh in on rivers I don't think thers are many issues regarding hauling up bulging nets. There are however some immense weights recorded on pools ...200 llb plus, perhaps this is what Stu is alluding to?
As far as high platforms, well yes I do see the need for these on rivers that have such a high rise and fall. Personally platforms are a pain for me, they when submerged make a good flood peg unfishable because of snag risk Also the potential to slip and fall off the things in a torrent is very real, much prefer terra firma
However I wish we could have some reasonable debate without getting personal, surely members should be able to voice concerns without being singled out as a trouble maker and advised to join the work parties.
Bit like complaining that your soup is cold and coming over all Basil Faulty, and being marched into the kitchen to apologise to the chef.
Posted on April 1, 2019 at 8:16 AM
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Here we go again,kettle,black springs to mind Neil?The only person I have said is a troublemaker is you!I have said above I will have a look when I’m next at these venues and let the fisheries team know if I think something could be done to improve the pegs.
I understand where Tracker is coming from with some of his points but that doesn’t mean to say I agree with all of them.What better way to give your input about how platforms are installed than pop down with the work party for a few hours one week?Why is that such a bad suggestion?
Posted on April 1, 2019 at 8:34 AM
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So defensive.... so you will have a word...good lad that wasn't difficult was it. As far as joining the work party, well thanks for the offer, but I am up to my eyes in volunteering bailiff litter picker duties down here, but thanks anyway.x
Oh! and smile once in a while,does wonders.
Posted on April 1, 2019 at 12:26 PM
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Read my comments properly I wasn’t suggesting you join the work party was I?I suggested Tracker spending a bit of time with them to put his ideas to them when they are next installing platforms.To be honest I wouldn’t wish spending the day with you on anybody.I knew it wouldn’t be long before you jumped on this after seeing I’d commented on here,pathetic little man.
Posted on April 1, 2019 at 1:06 PM
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Re: Platforms set too high off water!
Tracker, without the platforms and steps on some venues you and your tackle would be caked in mud during autumn and winter times. I used to stand and fish matches for five hours either float or feeder fishing when I was younger, but now I'm well into my 60's they are a godsend however high they are off the water. The days of hauling big bags of fish from rivers are few and far between now. At some point later in your life you will no doubt appreciate the comfort of a platform. In the meantime give the fisheries team a break.
Posted on April 2, 2019 at 3:46 PM
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Re: Platforms set too high off water!
To be fair to Tracker his original post was fairly constructive, wouldn't it been better if someone from the club had said Ok we'll take your input on board. Before explaining why they are at the height stated. Too often clubs see a members gripe as just that without actually stepping back and saying I know we done a load of work on this but perhaps the issues raised are ones we didn't foresee and could address next time
It may also be worth mentioning that platforms usually sink a little with usage and gravity
Posted on April 6, 2019 at 8:36 AM
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To be fair Hornet that’s what I did say above.I said I would have a look myself and mention it to the fisheries team if I feel it would help.My main issue with things like this is the constant negativity and criticism that volunteers of the BAA get thrown at them.
Posted on April 6, 2019 at 12:26 PM
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I think most of us recognise the good work you guys do Stew, any criticism which comes your way on the forum is quite rare and should be seen as such when you think how many members we got. Hopefully it's constructive in the majority of cases
On the subject of constructive criticism the issue I would have with high platforms is that they can be very dangerous as I had a mate who fell off one once years ago on the Ouse, at the time we thought it hilarious but could we get him out? No chance it was only the help of another member who had a rope in his car, lucky it was summer as we were able to see the funny side of him clambering around in rushes trying to get out
I think it's worth pointing out that it's not just heavy keepnets that are hard to lift out from such a height.
Posted on April 6, 2019 at 4:43 PM
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