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Re: River venues car access

paulgallivan

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The track to the car park at Salford Priors is now impassable by car and only just passable in a 4+4.The farmer has put up an electric fence on the outside of new track to the left of the old one.
He could have put it on the inside and left the track available it would have been no skin off his nose.So thats another venue not fishable, it's time something was done to fix the track

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Posted on September 13, 2020 at 10:59 AM

Terry49

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Re: Re: River venues car access

Chaps who has the privilege to maintain these access tracks, the farmer or club ? the entrance car park track at Knowle Sands is getting troublesome now also, needs some stone for holes, my other half wont drive down it anymore smiling

Posted on September 14, 2020 at 4:16 PM

stew83mul

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Re: Re: River venues car access

The majority of venues the tracks are usually down to the farmer/land owner to maintain

Posted on September 14, 2020 at 5:52 PM

Terry49

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Re: Re: River venues car access

Hello Stew, does the BAA ask/advise the farmer/landowner to maintain problem tracks or is it totally up to the landowner when they want ?

Posted on September 14, 2020 at 6:01 PM

stew83mul

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Re: Re: River venues car access

I’m not sure to be honest but I would imagine there can be some communication with the farmers,I suppose it depends on what the relationship is like between the club and the farmer concerned.Sometimes it might just be a case of passing through a different farmer/landowners land to access our fishery than the one who the rights are leased from.

Posted on September 14, 2020 at 6:15 PM

Terry49

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Re: Re: River venues car access

Cheers mate, so can be quite complex with all parties involved negotiations ? nothing is that simple these days sad

Posted on September 14, 2020 at 6:25 PM

stew83mul

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Re: Re: River venues car access

Yes it can be,plus the fact that some farmers probably don’t give a toss about the fisherman

Posted on September 14, 2020 at 6:39 PM

paulgallivan

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Re: Re: River venues car access

If the farmer / landowner does not care about the access would it not be better the give up the lease
and spend the money elsewhere

Posted on September 14, 2020 at 6:48 PM

Terry49

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Re: Re: River venues car access

i would hope communication with all parties could sort these issues out before such action was taken, would be a shame for the BAA to end up giving up its stretches, a lot of BBA members have only a handful of stretches they can visit, ie local/travel/distance etc, i'm sure stretches given up would take away some BAA members fishing ?

Posted on September 14, 2020 at 7:30 PM

stew83mul

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Re: Re: River venues car access

I may be wrong,I’m just presuming that’s the fisherman’s track isn’t that high up on a farmers priority list.I don’t think it is a good idea to start getting rid of fisheries when the club is growing each year,but I agree that some more communication with the farmers/land owners about improving some of the tracks is something that needs to be done

Posted on September 14, 2020 at 8:49 PM

onelastcast

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Re: Re: River venues car access

I would have hoped that there was some intelligence on just how these tracks are maintained and what relationships have with landowners to continue to have members access venues. Salford Priors has always been a problem, I no longer fish it because of track conditions, but this is not an isolated problem, from Stacklands to Salford Priors there are issues. If there is a problem in the summer what hope do we have in the winter? Again this, like maintaining pegs has become a problem, perhaps there needs to be some discussions, in an adult way, hopefully, as to what can be done.

Posted on September 15, 2020 at 9:08 AM

RiverNovice

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Re: Re: River venues car access

If the BAA has a lease with the farmer / Landowner and the BAA has paid good money to lease the fishing rights . Then surely it should be down to the farmer/landowner to maintain the track and the farmer/land owner should be made aware of that . If I rent a property from the landlord . Then the landlord has a duty to maintain that property that I live in ?

Posted on September 15, 2020 at 9:17 AM

Terry49

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Re: Re: River venues car access

I agree chaps, the BAA pay good money for lease and i'm sure a few ton of stone wont break the bank balance. i can deal with some overgrown pegs but once you can not access your chosen fishing venue then it's all over, no point the club sorting pegs when you can not get access to them.

This i think is getting more troublesome than those problem pegs ?

Posted on September 15, 2020 at 10:16 AM

stew83mul

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Re: Re: River venues car access

I agree some of the tracks are terrible,definitely something whoever wins theses contracts for the maintenance will need to do

Posted on September 15, 2020 at 10:37 AM

onelastcast

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Re: Re: River venues car access

Stacklands as an example, we are controlled as far as access is concerned by Mr Jones the farmer as to when we can access the car park. the first sign of wet he locks the gate. I have spoke with him in the past, nice old gent, but very much opposed to BAA having any access over 'his' land. The parking outside the gate is very limited, and the road narrow, this venue is a prime example of landowners who accept a lease from us and yet attempt the club from accessing our rights to fish.

Posted on September 15, 2020 at 10:43 AM

onelastcast

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Re: Re: River venues car access

So track maintenance would be part of the brief for new contractors? Again that might be an issue with some venue's, as the stick they hit us with is the fact the poor tracks are in a way there way of preventing access, the only way via a tractor. Might be a bit cynical, but it seems to be the case.
Just where the legalities lie I wouldn't know, but as suggested I would think a landlord would have to mantain the track to a certain standard under the terms of the lease?

Posted on September 15, 2020 at 10:49 AM

Chrispi63

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Re: Re: River venues car access

re Stacklands - the farmer has an issue because anglers have left the gate open, attempted night fishing and various other things to annoy him. Not all by BAA members but he feels BAA don't control it properly.
he seems a very reasonably man when spoken to in the right way.
I imagine issues with farmers re access is generally down to a minority of anglers annoying and disrespecting them.

Posted on October 7, 2020 at 1:05 PM

Haddon

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Re: Re: River venues car access

I had a long chat with the farmers wife. A really nice lady. Yes they do have issues with the BAA she made no bones about it. But also they have a big problem with poachers. The local gillie had a knife pulled on him by a couple of east Europeans who were caught taking fish out of the meadows a coded lock on the gate would benefit both the BAA members and the farmer. But I also believe the farmer is resentful that they lost the fishing rights and will never be happy about having to share the meadows.

Posted on October 7, 2020 at 8:54 PM

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