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River Teme, barbel

curry

curry
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Is anyone catching barbel on the Teme this season or is it no longer worth the effort. I get the impression that the head of fish is much lower than previously, maybe I'm just talking to the wrong people.

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Posted on August 6, 2015 at 5:52 PM

Baggyboysonbank

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Re: River Teme, barbel

Have not fished for a few yrs., we used to head for the Eardiston area, but since the big floods a lot of the features we fished disappeared. A guy who knows a lot of teme water is Terry Simner, he can be found on Barbel Fishing World, he's also a BAA bailiff. His latest post suggests otters being a problem, he also told me this when he was doing his rounds a few weeks back. he may give you some info if you get no luck on here... GL

Posted on August 7, 2015 at 4:09 PM

curry

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Re: River Teme, barbel

Thanks for the reply. I used to fish Broadwas a lot but that was also unrecognisable after the floods.

Posted on August 8, 2015 at 6:41 PM

Belsh

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Re: River Teme, barbel

I have fished the Teme a fair few times this season and think that the low water levels are one of the reasons it's not fishing well. I'm sure when the levels are back up to more normal levels the barbel will be easier to catch.
If, however, it's still fishing rock hard when there is another foot of water on it I will start to worry.
Broadwas is particularly hard these days.

Posted on August 8, 2015 at 8:18 PM

shaunh

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Re: River Teme, barbel

im very worried the Teme will be low level for some time...a few weeks ago, in the rain, i saw the field near Bransford being watered by means of water pumped straight out of the river...they watered that field for a whole week!! Rain or shine !! Walking upstream at the weekend i counted 3 pumps between Bransford and Leigh....i dread to think how many others there are..i know farmers can use the rivers but some places they seem to be sucking it dry,,and for what? I hope the EA are monitoring these farmers closely .

Posted on August 9, 2015 at 10:52 AM

Belsh

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Re: River Teme, barbel

Fish often have to be rescued by the EA etc from the upper reaches of the Teme. It makes me wonder in times of draught if fish migrate to areas that they know to carry more water - ie downstream. In the case of the Teme this would mean back down to the Severn at Worcester. Maybe when the levels rise and in times of flood the fish find their way back up the Teme?

Posted on August 9, 2015 at 3:28 PM

Kingfisher

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Re: River Teme, barbel

The Teme, once renowned for its Barbel, no longer provides the kind of Barbel sport it used to. My mates and I are regular visitors to this lovely river and have seen the decline in the Barbel population over the years, especially since the 2007 floods. The stretch between Eastham Bridge through Lindridge, Puddleford and Eardiston seems almost devoid of them now, or at least they are seriously difficult to find and catching more than 1 in a session would be regarded as good, by us at least. Reasons for the apparent decline are speculative but blaming just one reason is probably not fair. Floods may have decimated stocks but Barbel 'design' should have minimized this. Stories of Barbel being found 'high and dry' in fields is grossly exaggerated and Otter predation is also questionable. Other species have thrived - Chub stocks seem on the increase as are the Grayling and Trout populations in our experience, although the Bream seem to have suffered as well. Other reasons for the decline seem more aligned to changes in habitat and farming practices. Use of pesticides and herbicides may have contributed to the loss of streamer weed, insect life and run off from fields seem to have deposited lots of silt in gravel runs - maybe reducing the spawning potential? There is evidence of Barbel breeding with small Barbel being caught locally, so the Barbel population should have returned to pre 2007 levels if floods were the only cause for its demise. You can still catch the odd Barbel but you used to be able to see shoals of them swimming up river in low, clear conditions. I have sat and counted over 40 Barbel, pre 2007, swim up through my swim and wondered why they weren't stopping to feed on my offerings? If you see a Barbel now then it is a rarity, whereas Chub are plentiful - why haven't the Otters reduced these numbers too?
By all means try and find a hot spot, if they still exist, but I feel it needs some more specialized research to discover why the Barbel don't seem to be thriving to the same extent now. I have heard the floods are to blame on the Severn too but again this isn't born out by the evidence available. Maybe some other 'regulars' have different opinions or knowledge but like mine it is probably anecdotal. I just hope the Teme returns to its former Barbel glory in the near future and we can all enjoy catching lots of those torpedoes from there again.

Posted on August 14, 2015 at 4:11 PM

curry

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Re: River Teme, barbel

Kingfisher, excellent post, I appreciate it.

The fact that small barbell are being caught is encouraging, that means they are able to breed successfully and the future stocks should improve over time.

With luck we will also get Severn barbel moving into the Teme to assist in the process.

I'm not convinced the floods would 'flush' barbel downstream They are well capable of finding shelter in a flooded river. I suspect it is more likely the silt has made the habitat less attractive.

It sounds like the chub and grayling are the species to concentrate on...roll on winter.

curry.

Posted on August 14, 2015 at 5:19 PM

Hornet

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Re: River Teme, barbel

"whereas Chub are plentiful - why haven't the Otters reduced these numbers too?"

Sorry kingfisher but chub are way more canny when it comes to avoiding otter attack than barbel or bream are and therein lies the problem. Any blame put on floods or pesticides being selective to barbel demise and not other species is totally off the mark i'm afraid.

Posted on August 16, 2015 at 7:10 PM

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