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What do you want from the BAA

DavidH

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Hi guys after my post the other month on the pulse survey, I would be interested as I'm sure others would to hear your thoughts on this subject.
Not looking for a debate on this or that just your individual thoughts on what you want or would like to see. If you like give me your top five.

So here are mine

1)Access Access Access. Gone are the days of 2 mile walks just to reach the river in the distance. If the access cant be improved then get rid of the fishery and concentrate on those that have good access.

2) pegs improve the pegs. With access comes the chance to improve the pegs look at Fladbury great fishery always in use these days great work by the club.

3) External work party's working in conjunction and under the supervision of our own work party's. Our guys do an awesome job but are way under stretched on what they can do with the number of waters the club owns. Maybe a reduced membership rate for the following year for guys who turn out to 5 or more work partys a year just an idea to see if this would increase volunteers.

4) More bailiffs. Again they do a great job for our club but we don't have enough of them. I'm not sure If they get free membership or petrol allowance but some intensive to increase the numbers on our waters. (seems to me a lot of our waters get poached early evenings)

5) An increase in subs. How we get what we do for £40 a year ill never know. If an increase in membership to 50/60/70/80 pounds a year would bring me the things I've listed then I would be happy to pay it. Sure I would have to get out more often but never mind ay.

So over to you guys like I say this is not a debate just your thoughts on what you as an individual would like in the future. All the best David

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Posted on September 24, 2015 at 7:05 PM

bobrich5295

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Re: What do you want from the BAA

In general i agree with what you say, but the waters with difficult access I like, seldom matches on them, not too many people fish them which is good from my point of view as its quite often good fishing, long walk mind you if its not.

More Bailiffs always a good idea but a lot of people either cant or wont do anything for their sport, just rely on a few good people who give up their fishing time to help others Just look at the number of idiots that leave litter. Maybe a reduction in day ticket venues would help with that but it would need a membership price increase to offset what i suspect is a good money earner. A season night permit for the waters its allowed on or the ability to buy online and print so a short notice session can be had.

The pegs are a problem as the steps down erode so quickly and the mud on the Severn and WA is very slippery when its wet.

Posted on September 25, 2015 at 11:23 AM

curry

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Re: What do you want from the BAA

I would be prepared to pay more for better services/facilities but the remit of the BAA has always been to provide affordable fishing to ordinary people. They have done a remarkable job and it's no wonder they are one of the most successful clubs in the country.

I'm retired now and not as fit as I was so access is becoming more important to me. I can't walk the distances I used to so a nearby carpark is essential for me. Decent banks are never going to be easy for the club to provide. Our rivers rise and fall rapidly, steps get washed out, it's just the way it is, all we can do is get on with it.

I've no complaints about bailiffing, I see them often. I've no idea why some people get annoyed about being asked for their membership, it's part of the deal, just accept it. I love chatting to these guys, they often know more about the waters than the rest of us and see how they are fishing. Pick their brains, I do.

My main gripe is the same as most peoples.... LITTER, don't leave any and pick it up even if it's someone else's.

Posted on September 25, 2015 at 5:22 PM

Thebiglad

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Re: What do you want from the BAA

I to would be happy to pay more, cos £40 a year is a steel for the amount of water you can fish. Being able to buy nite permits online would be a bonus, but only for members.

Posted on September 25, 2015 at 6:55 PM

gb123

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Re: What do you want from the BAA

Curry, with you all the way on your post, wouldn't want to pay too much more though, but it is suberb value for money, that's why I joined.

Posted on September 25, 2015 at 7:36 PM

trophypete

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Re: What do you want from the BAA

On the subject of baliffs I have to say that I was delighted to see one today at Blackstone. First time I have ever been asked for my card in 20 years. Personally my biggest issue with the rivers at the moment is that many of the pegs only seem to be suitable for people fishing the feeder. I know that alot of it comes down to bank erosion but the pegs seem to be getting further back from the water. Today at Blackstone I had to fish from a platform that was 10' from the water making it very difficult to present my stickfloat. Now I realise that 95% of the people fishing the rivers (especially the Severn) are only interested in Barbel, but there are still a few of us out there that like to trot a stick. I understand that there is not much that the BAA can do about the erosion of the banks but I hope that over time the rivers don't become feeder only venues. With regards to access of the venues I agree that it is good to have a mixture. It's great to be able to drive along the bank giving access to all, but I also like to visit a stretch with a bit of a walk and you know that you may have the whole day to yourself. After a tough week at work there is nothing better than a day on the river all alone.

Posted on September 25, 2015 at 10:12 PM

curry

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Re: What do you want from the BAA

Baliffs, one week last year I had a week off and fished 5 of the 7 days from Arley down to Stourport and got baliffed (is there such a word?) every single time.

Posted on September 25, 2015 at 11:09 PM

Hornet

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Re: What do you want from the BAA

I disagree with the increase in subs, whilst there's no denying it's good value we must also realise that many members come from far away because £45 isn't a lot to pay. If like me you live over 100 miles away and belong to another club then too much of an increase would lead to a choice being made between the two clubs. The best thing about the Birmingham area whether it's the cost of maggots or fishing is the honest pricing and value you get - Please don't become pricey like it is down here.

I also don't mind a bit of a walk and would rather a fishery that is long than one where cars are driving behind each peg, I know with age that won't always be the case but for those who wan't to put the hard yards in to get away from it all it's ideal

3) and 4) are good points

Posted on September 27, 2015 at 10:13 AM

curry

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Re: What do you want from the BAA

Hornet, I can understand where you are coming from on subs because I've been living nearly 200 miles away for years. I've just moved back to Kiddy/Bewdley area now I've retired.

When I lived away I was a member of 2 clubs and the subs were £100 each, the river fishing was nothing like as good as BAA although the still waters were probably better.

I don't think BAA would ever become an expensive club, it's not what they were set up for. What we are talking about really is a modest increase to provide better services.

The Teme does need some work to open up more swims, I'm not talking about a swim every 10 yards like a match water but one every 75yds seems reasonable. That should provide plenty of protection for the fish and still leave a choice of swims for the angler.

I was a member of one club that actually fenced off an area and banned fishing in it to provide a nursery area for the fish. It was a cracking stretch of water but the members did honour the agreement because they could see that providing a refuge for the fish would improve sport in years to come. It did work because fish number improved.

It's good to hear different peoples perspectives on what they want from BAA. It must have the most diverse membership of any club I can think of.

Posted on September 27, 2015 at 11:08 AM

glawsteruk

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Re: What do you want from the BAA

Disagree particularly with your easy access point.Some of us don't mind a walk and try to travel light - some guy moaned at me at Stacklands last week for being asked to move his car by the entrance gate as it was such a long walk to his peg by the footbridge - he was under 40! Stretches such as Trimpley are worth the effort and should definitely remain in my view. Obviously when I'm a little older I'll appreciate the easier access venues.

Posted on September 27, 2015 at 12:10 PM

gb123

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Re: What do you want from the BAA

A good point made by curry, and I think the posts have shown this, it is a very diverse membership and that can only be a good thing. A bit of something to please everyone.

Posted on September 27, 2015 at 7:24 PM

Johnny_Care

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Re: What do you want from the BAA

I don't think anyone can complain really for 40 quid, the litter issue will always be a problem, and I agree with putting the price up, it might deter some of the folk none of us want on the river (but theyd probably fish it without a card anyway). As has been said, if it was £100, I'd still have a card, it would still be good value.

I dont think you can knock waters on the head because of long walks, some people like to get away from the crowds, look at Quatford, the walk there can be huge, and I think that's the last place the organisation would drop.

From a venue point, I'd like to see more waters on the Lower Severn, and maybe a few upper river stretches too, but that's just me.

Posted on September 28, 2015 at 8:20 AM

gudgeonbasher

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Re: What do you want from the BAA

I would agree with pretty much all the comments made, except the price increase. A small increase yes maybe £5-£10 as we don't want to price your average angler (like me) out of the club.

definitely agree with the access issues. maybe the BAA could engage with landowners to look into the possibility of car parks at either end of long stretches where possible. My club has a lot of older members and we are restricted somewhat to the venues we book as we need park behind your peg stretches or short walks.

maybe a look into the possibility of a couple of stretches of the Avon around Stratford and above and still water venues would be good as well

Posted on September 28, 2015 at 8:41 AM

Belsh

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Re: What do you want from the BAA

In my opinion the only thing that greatly increasing the card price will do is punish the less well off.
It's a slightly dubious comment to say that putting the price up might deter some of the folk that none of us want on the river. I.e. people with less money?
Let's find ways to raise the standard of the memberships anglers without alienating people with lower incomes.
I do understand it's a popular train of thought on this forum to put the ticket price up but it will not solve all the problems.
It will create others and the society will lose members whose only 'fault' is lack of money.

Posted on September 28, 2015 at 8:56 AM

DavidH

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Re: What do you want from the BAA

Some good points guys keep them coming. Remember this post is not about agreeing or disagreeing, its simply what do you want?

Posted on September 28, 2015 at 9:23 AM

Johnny_Care

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Re: What do you want from the BAA

It's a slightly dubious comment to say that putting the price up might deter some of the folk that none of us want on the river. I.e. people with less money?


Belsh - what i actually meant was it's genuine anglers that we want on the bank, regardless of their financial staus. I've fished the waters of other clubs, ones with a higher subscription, and the problems there are definitely less, less litter etc. I know it may not solve all the problems, but I think it may help. I'm certainly not alone in thinking that.

Posted on September 28, 2015 at 10:20 AM

gb123

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Re: What do you want from the BAA

Johnny Care..... Just side stepping things for a moment I have watched your videos on You Tube, good they are too, just what fishing videos should be, a bloke fishing and catching fish, not a bloke fishing trying to be a TV presenter. .. Recommended

Posted on September 28, 2015 at 8:25 PM

Johnny_Care

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Re: What do you want from the BAA

Thanks mate.....havent done any for a while, but then i havent been catching much!!!
Theyre good fun to make.

Posted on September 28, 2015 at 9:58 PM

Lee

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Re: What do you want from the BAA

I'd like a club that actively engage with its member. Take this board for example, how often do BAA representatives come on to clear things up or engage in discussion? Pretty rare. The survey was a waste of space if they are not willing to share the findings. Not worth the effort if it's all a secret as it makes me feel that they didn't like what they read so don't want to ruffle any feathers.

Posted on October 15, 2015 at 10:27 PM

curry

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Re: What do you want from the BAA

Lee, I agree that the more engagement there is the better.

The trouble is, I suspect, that the vast majority of members just buy their BAA book and go fishing. They aren't that bothered about the association providing they can fish their favourite waters.

Take these boards as an example, how many posters are there in total? Not many when you consider the total number of members. Apathy is the main problem. Look at the number of people who turn up for work parties, vey few and usually the same ones. Don't get me wrong I don't go on work parties either, so I'm hardly in a position to criticise.

The idea of BAA officers coming on here to discuss anything relevant is a good one and I do think it has happened. On one of the Stacklands threads I seem to remember one of the bailiffs appeared to explain his views. At least it was a start.

curry

Posted on October 16, 2015 at 8:13 AM
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