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Unhooking Mats & Handling of Fish

bcfc_4life

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It is a pet hate of mine when I see anglers without unhooking mats.

2 of the current 'pictures of the week' featured on the BAA homepage show good sized pike being handled without use of them, and I believe the safety and well fare of the fish in out waters should be paramount.

The blood detailed on the hand of one member in one of the photographs being showcased also raises concern. Perhaps some anglers are not as competent in unhooking certain species of fish, maybe it is me just being anal. but I think it a travesty that these sort of photographs be the forefront of the homepage.

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Posted on January 3, 2019 at 10:56 AM

onelastcast

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Re: Unhooking Mats & Handling of Fish

Good points raised, but apathy rules on here, just on this page of General chat there has been 5,000 or so looks and just ELEVEN replies.

Posted on January 4, 2019 at 7:33 AM

gb123

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Re: Unhooking Mats & Handling of Fish

Not disputing any of the comments here at all, I think with replies just one or two good ones can say it all so no need for loads, indeed sometimes the original post speaks for itself.
Regards handling, especially big pike, they can be scary to a novice and everyone goes through a learning curve. I have caught several but still consider myself a beginner, at least the blood was the chaps own.
Just my thoughts, I don't disagree with anything said. smiling .

Posted on January 4, 2019 at 2:16 PM

RiverNovice

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Re: Unhooking Mats & Handling of Fish

There are Anglers out there who showed a total disregard for fish welfare and the environment .
You only have to look at the amount of litter left on the river bank left behind by some anglers .

If you take last years heat wave . The Environment agency advised against fishing for Barbel .
There were some anglers who showed a total disregard for the advice given and thought they knew better that the Environment agency .

Posted on January 4, 2019 at 6:20 PM

onelastcast

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Re: Unhooking Mats & Handling of Fish

Wow busy on here...Novice If you need any help in catching doubles in a heatwave , give me a shout.grin

Posted on January 4, 2019 at 10:55 PM

RiverNovice

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Re: Unhooking Mats & Handling of Fish

Thanks for your offer of help in catching doubles . I have caught my share of decent fish over the years .... So I don't need your help smiling So I wont be taking you up on your offer .smiling

Posted on January 5, 2019 at 9:29 PM

stew83mul

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Re: Unhooking Mats & Handling of Fish

In the one photo you have no way of telling if it was unhooked on a mat then held up for the photo,the other is clearly on soft long grass.Had it been on gravel or another hard surface I can understand but I really do think people get carried away with the use of mats.I can understand if you are unhooking a larger fish on a hard surface but sometimes there really isn’t any need,but that’s just my opinion......Looks like someone is bored counting replies against views again,lol.

Posted on January 6, 2019 at 10:07 PM

Ollie

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Re: Unhooking Mats & Handling of Fish

You can't win with some people, quite a few fisheries I fish have banned unhooking / weighing mats because of potential spread of disease !! Right or wrong ?

Posted on January 6, 2019 at 11:59 PM

RiverNovice

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Re: Unhooking Mats & Handling of Fish

Ollie I assume when you say some fisheries have banned unhooking mates ? I assume you are talking about Carp puddles ? I fish many different rivers and never come across a ban on rivers . I fish for Barbel and all ways use a mat when unhooking a fish .

Posted on January 7, 2019 at 11:20 AM

stew83mul

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Re: Unhooking Mats & Handling of Fish

Obviously he is referring to commercial fisheries,but more often than not I won’t even get the fish out of the landing net unless I’m going to take a picture which is rare.Simply have the landing net between my legs and unhook it there then return the fish.Would you honestly say that using a mat would be better than that process?If so what would be the benefits of using a mat over unhooking it in the net between your legs and more often than not,not even touching the fish?Do you use a mat for every fish you catch?Im not having a go I’m just putting a few questions out there and giving my opinion

Posted on January 7, 2019 at 11:47 AM

Brummymoorey

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Re: Unhooking Mats & Handling of Fish

You wouldn't sleep in a bed that's been used by someone else without changing the sheets and quilt cover first, but you'd put a fish on a mat that's been used for another fish!!!
No wonder fisheries are rife with diseased fish.
An experienced angler would know how to treat a fish without the need for a mat.
If the grass is good enough for TV celebs such as the late John Wilson, Matt Hayes, etc.... then its good enough for me.

Posted on January 7, 2019 at 12:45 PM

stew83mul

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Re: Unhooking Mats & Handling of Fish

Totally agree brummy,unfortunately the “mat police” can’t wait to jump on any photo that doesn’t have a mat in the background and criticise the angler.

Posted on January 7, 2019 at 1:08 PM

Ollie

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Re: Unhooking Mats & Handling of Fish

Why can't some people just comment on how good the catch was and admire the fish these anglers were fortunate to land instead of using sniping comments regarding mats and fish welfare which then leads to unnecessary and never ending debates.

Posted on January 7, 2019 at 2:09 PM

onelastcast

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Re: Unhooking Mats & Handling of Fish

Nothing wrong with grass, soft grass, better still just onhook in the net and release, prolonging a fish's time out of the water with a weigh sling mat and a small film production does more harm.

Posted on January 7, 2019 at 5:08 PM

stew83mul

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Re: Unhooking Mats & Handling of Fish

Unfortunately in recent years it seems the bitching and criticising of fish welfare,mats,how the fish is held etc is creeping into Barbel fishing from the Carping lot.

Posted on January 7, 2019 at 7:42 PM

RiverNovice

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Re: Unhooking Mats & Handling of Fish

I am curious to know onelastcast ? You say and I quote '' Better still just unhook in a the net and release , Prolonging a fish's time out of water with a weigh sling mat and a small film production crew does more harm ? I assume it is you in the You tube video ? How big was the film production crew when you filmed your self catching and posing with your Barbel at the end of the film ?
Also how many double figure Barbel have you caught over the years and have taken photos of ?
Perhaps you should practice what you preach ?




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaT4GjEshso...

Posted on January 7, 2019 at 11:19 PM

onelastcast

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Re: Unhooking Mats & Handling of Fish

I suspected this was you utter troll, you tried the same thing on BFW and got banned, rightly so, now on here... FWIW the fish was laid on a mat, don't let the truth get in the way of a lie.
But to try and point all and sundry to what was once a productive Barbel stretch on my local bit of the WA now this,
However I do as you well know do photograph heavier fish in the net on a mat, I do not waste any time in keeping the fish out of water, that session you have posted up was a good 7 years ago, things change as do practices.
You caused mayhem on BFW, sad day for this site if you mantain this sort of thing.

Posted on January 8, 2019 at 4:48 PM

stew83mul

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Re: Unhooking Mats & Handling of Fish

To be fair he does have a point...the video completely contradicts your above comment,slightly hypocritical really

Posted on January 8, 2019 at 4:54 PM

onelastcast

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Re: Unhooking Mats & Handling of Fish

No it doesn't, the clip doesn't show as he said on BFW I laid it on STUBBLE, the guy is trouble and the biggest b.s out there, don't just take my word for it, as I said practices change, that day I was with my sons, one of which was making that clip for his college work on film studies.

He has copied something that merely attempts to discredit me...but fails.

And to repeat I always now take any picture of a good fish in the net on the mat. He knows that too he has been stalking me for years.

Posted on January 8, 2019 at 5:02 PM

onelastcast

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Re: Re: Unhooking Mats & Handling of Fish

Jeff?, I guess we will have to take your word that you actually fish at all, I know you are upset with me, one particular incident was the now famous picture you put up on BFW as a Winter Barbel caught by you, except that you forgot about the balsam petal that was alongside the Barbel in the net..

Of course it could not have been a Winter Barbel, and then your claims that you were catching
while all were struggling, there were many, but possibly the best of all was the Severn Estuary Barbel, still awaiting pictures of that, with or without a mat. smiling

Your catch claims were incredible, know one I have ever known has ever met you, you came close mind, when picking up a reel bought from Clive, and you sent your 'kid brother' Mmmmm

Jeff Collins, now River Novice. very odd.

Posted on January 8, 2019 at 6:04 PM
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