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Can we step back a bit and cut the antagonism from the discussion. We are all interested in BAA and it would be beneficial if we can work together to improve the association.
Let's remember that the bailiffs are volunteers doing their best. Like all groups of people there will be some who are great at people skills and some who are less so. If you have a complaint then report it to BAA, hopefully they will investigate it. Even if they don't take any action immediately they will if the same bailiff keeps getting reported.
I don't expect bailiffs to clean up after me, I take a carrier bag with me for my own rubbish, I tie it onto the leg of my chair and put my waste into it as I go. I also have a bin bag in case the bank is covered in litter, in summer it often gets filled, less so in the colder months.
If the bailiff decides to pick up a bit of litter as he goes then that is great but we shouldn't expect it, it's too much to expect them to be wet nurses to our less litter conscious members. Personally I'd rather they spent the time educating the litter louts.
I don't know what the problem is with BAA members regarding litter, it's nothing like as bad on KDAA waters, most of their members pick up litter if they see it. Have a walk on the banks up from Bewdley and you will see the difference.
There is a desire for some anglers to fish into the evening and/or night fish, BAA needs to consider the issue and see if they can accommodate the members who want this. BAA was originally set up to provide fishing for working people, that evolved into providing match fishing venues to satisfy the massive demand that arose. That's largely gone now, match fishing nothing like as popular as it was, maybe BAA needs to find a new purpose by listening to the membership and trying to accommodate their needs.
BAA has some great fishing, let's try to work together to make it even better.
Posted on October 06, 2017 at 7:00 PM
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Not all BAA members want to night fish. It's a subject that appears to be very important to those that do want it but I suspect the numbers are quite small in relation to the overall number of BAA members.
I'm not suggesting that BAA shouldn't listen to the people advocating a change in rules but it is down to those people to make their voices heard. It just isn't going to be enough to chat about it on here, if you want change write to BAA, get your friends to write in. If you can the attend the AGM and put your point over in person. Those people who are activist can make things happen.
Stew, I don't think anyone was advocating just changing rules without due process. If BAA has a rule which says a vote must be taken at the AGM or by the committee (or whatever else) then that is what must happen. I do think the current system for night permits is a bit unhelpful. (maybe that is intentional).
I've nothing but respect for the bailiffs I've met round Bewdley and Arley. I wish they were around more often so I could pick their brains.
Posted on October 03, 2017 at 8:12 PM
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Dave m, perhaps the whole point of the current system is that it does discourage night fishing.
I don't know anyone on the BAA executive so take this comment with a pinch of salt.
Historically a lot of local clubs/ Associations have been match fishing orientated. A lot of executive members have come from the match fishing fraternity. Because of this the rules have been focused in the interests of match anglers.
Match anglers don't have much interest in night fishing so they have no interest in allowing it. Most of their social circle are match fishermen who also aren't interested in night fishing It's self reinforcing.
Maybe the way to exert influence on BAA is for those wanting night fishing to organise themselves (not difficult with social media) and all arrange to turn up at the AGM and put their point over in numbers.
It could be that BAA don't fall into this category and there are valid reasons not to have night fishing ( I suspect this is the case) but if you don't make your voices heard you will never know.
(Don't expect me to join in, I've no interest in night fishing.)
Posted on September 24, 2017 at 10:06 PM
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Hi Dale, It's not something that has particularly bothered me in the past.
I did have a bit of a rude awakening on the Severn a couple of years back. It had a couple of foot on summer levels and it wasn't the best days weather. I was fine in the pitch I'd chosen, steps has been cut by the work party and I had no trouble getting into the peg. It rained, them it rained some more, then it seriously rained. In the end I decided to call it a day.
The problem was the bank was very slippery, even my big boots couldn't get much traction. If I started to slip half way up the bank there was no way I could avoid ending up in the water. I took the rod bag up first by treading on the vegetation, coming back down was a nightmare, even using a long bank stick as a prop. Eventually I got everything onto the path but I was seriously worried doing so.
Not much BAA can do to prevent such problems, it's down to us to be careful.
If BAA can keep vegetation in check on access paths and cut steps down to the water that's as much as I would expect. If you have a better plan I'm all for it.
Posted on September 20, 2017 at 9:43 PM
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