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Re: Have the BAA not learnt any lessons?

If there were two stages at different heights, you just take your pick on the day!
No problem at all!
At least the BAA would be making a days fishing much safer and then whatever platform you choose, would be at your own risk.

As for the removal of stick-up-stakes being difficult to remove, so what?
It should be done on health and safety compliance.

Actually they could be sawn of level with the river bed where they are easily accessible in the shallow margins.

Posted on August 04, 2021 at 9:42 AM

Re: Have the BAA not learnt any lessons?

I went yesterday (Tues 3rd Aug) to Ladyham and fished just so I would know first-hand what at least one peg was actually like to fish.
I fished three pegs above the shallows!

How you would get by in a contest on this peg, I just don't know.
I tried to put in a twelve foot keepnet and it was nowhere near long enough to reach the water.
At a rough guess I would say a minimum of about eighteen to twenty feet of keep net is needed to reach any depth of water, in which to keep the fish safely.
Even then, a fairly large weight attached to the net end would be needed to hold it in position, when a boat goes by.

The pegs being fished on either side of me were exactly the same, those anglers also could not use their nets.

Going back to Brummymoorey's post, having a two stages on each high peg would be a very good answer to this problem.

A simple solution, but it would cost a few bob!

A second low platform built about two feet above low water level with steps or ladder type access would solve the problem.
To be practical ideally, the two platforms would be offset with the lower platform built upstream about two to three feet off centre from the top platform.
Set like this means when using the upper platform an angler could have a net in and land fish without too much hassle.

A two platform approach would mean this type of high-bank peg on any venue, would be catering for all types of river conditions.

A bit off subject, Ladyham in wet winter conditions needs to be approached with caution.
An angler once told me that he went there one winter and got stuck on the track down to the water.
Six hours later and £150 lighter, he was towed out of the mud.
So be careful if you go there alone in wet conditions.

Posted on August 04, 2021 at 6:50 AM

Re: Have the BAA not learnt any lessons?

There are no spaces below or any escape route provided to climb back up if you were unfortunate enough to fall off.

If the pegs had as you say a ''fishable space below'' that would be ideal, but they don't.

The reason often given for high positioned platforms is always about ''when the river is in flood''.
This approach punishes the majority in favour of the very small minority who brave the flooded rivers.

The majority are punished in two ways.

There is the already stated danger aspect and fishing from high above the water is damn awkward, especially when it is windy.

High platforms have the potential to be dangerous.
High platforms with stakes sticking up below them, have the potential to be lethal.

When any association (not only fishing based) provide facilities for their members to use, those facilities have to by law, be safe to use.
This being the case, you can be sure they are accountable and liable to prosecution if the worst were to happen.

Also, if you are on a contest you do not have a choice, you have to fish the pegs provided,

Posted on August 02, 2021 at 7:10 PM

Have the BAA not learnt any lessons?

It was recently stated in a previous post that contractors had put in place new platforms at Ladyham!

So I went there to see how well these new platforms would suit my stick float type of fishing.

I had a bit of a shock!
The actual platforms I could not fault, a decent size, level and small gaps between the timbers.
The positioning of the platforms leaves a lot to be desired.
They range from comical to very dangerous!

The comical ones where the shallow water is, have been set at ten to twenty feet back from the waters edge and the second from the bottom stage has a complete stage directly underneath and three to four feet lower.

The dangerous ones are at a ridiculous height of six to eight feet above low water level.

Unless you have mountain goat abilities, fall off one of these and even if you are not injured, it is extremely doubtful you would be able to get back up the bank without some major help from other anglers/walkers.

Actually as things are at this moment in time, on some of the even more dangerous pegs, it is almost certain anyone who fell from them would be seriously injured.

They are made so much more dangerous because the legs of the previous stages have been left sticking up out of the water a foot or two.

Fall onto these stakes and I believe you would have a more than a 50/50 chance of being killed!
Also having to haul a decent bag of fish through these stakes and up several feet without damaging the keepnet would be difficult.

In a past life for my sins, part of my job was health and safety!

I am therefore surprised given what happened a year or so ago involving a death and a huge fine and costs, that the BAA have accepted these very high platforms, some of which have sticking up, obviously dangerous stakes to which a faller could be impaled on.

On one peg there are five of these stakes sticking up, just catch your net on them and it could be lost fish and a replacement net.
As I have said before, fall onto them and it is a guaranteed disaster

On health and safety grounds these stakes should have been removed from each peg BEFORE anyone worked above them.

Plain common sense really.

On safety ground I would suggest a maximum platform height of two feet above low water level.

If you fall in and you are on your own, you at least need some sort of chance to be able to get out with you own efforts.

Posted on August 02, 2021 at 10:07 AM

Re: How about a Tackle-tip section?

The C&RT suggest ''take them home for the pot''

Posted on July 23, 2021 at 11:52 AM

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