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GlenI Total Posts: 99 Joined: January 16, 2016	Re: Dyofix blue Stew I think your replies were for me not Ken. Anyway, I fished there today and the water was not blue at all. The lilies are starting to pop up in the usual places so they seem unaffected - time will tell. I was scanning the surface as the wind died down and there were plenty of small fish topping - probably taking midge pupa which were hatching. So it seems we don't have an ecological melt down and the lilies are growing anyway. Someone just up from me had a bream about 3 lbs and someone on the opposite bank was also catching but couldn't quite see what - big enough to get the net out. I was after zander and hooked but lost what looked like a double figure fish about 30ft from the net. Frustrating, as I have put in quite a lot of hours to catch zander - again, I really don't think it is crawling with them - unless I'm crap at catching them. So despite the concerns on here it seems to be 'situation normal' down at the lake. Posted on April 14, 2017 at 10:15 PM
stew83mul Total Posts: 663 Joined: May 30, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue Well glen there you go,like you say not the environmental meltdown as predicted by some,proof from somebody that has actually visited the venue before shooting everyone down who despite what people think only have the best interests of the pools and the members that fish it at heart.Thanks for the input glen. Posted on April 14, 2017 at 10:30 PM
stew83mul Total Posts: 663 Joined: May 30, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue Onelastcast,do you honestly think that the baa would just blindly dump a load of chemicals into a lake without any consultation?How long have the baa had fisheries now?I'd say they have got a fair bit of experience in running fisheries.If you are referring to the zander issue then I think you will find there are many fisheries up and down the country that are stocked with zander and are thriving,bury hill is just one that comes to mind.Yes zander are river fish,but so are barbel and agree with it or not they are thriving in many commercial fisheries across the country. Posted on April 14, 2017 at 10:37 PM
GlenI Total Posts: 99 Joined: January 16, 2016	Re: Dyofix blue Stew well said - I was going to make the point about Bury Hill as well. And despite what has been said, most predator fisherman appreciate that fisheries have to be balanced to be sustainable. I had three bites today and I think they were all from the same fish as they came within 10mins on the same rod and the same kind of hesitant bite. If the problem was that serious my baits would have been picked up eagerly from the moment they went in, by hungry rampaging predators desperate for their next meal. I have also read the same estimates of the weight they eat per year, so don't think this is a 'guess'. And of course within that total weight the pike and zeds also predate each other. which helps keep numbers in check. Zander can do very well in lakes and there is no reason why Uckinghall couldn't produce some very nice zeds in future, Bury Hall shows how anglers are keen to fish for them and this equates to memberships. There are only two pools which effectively cater for predator fisherman within the BAA, the other being Mythe, which also has zeds and pike. I think stocks in Mythe are probably more or less the same - maybe more pike than Uckinghall. I have said before. I'd love to see more tench and crucians introduced into Uckinghall. but can also understand the flooding may make this pointless. Maybe a fence around the lake would keep the fish in though - wasn't that done at Mythe? So anyway, can we put this one to bed now - keep calm and carry on fishing! Posted on April 14, 2017 at 11:03 PM
KenL Total Posts: 280 Joined: December 27, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue "Ken, I very much doubt the Zander consumes as little as you suggest". The source of the information is Dr Bruno Broughton. Of course, you are welcome to provide evidence of studies that might suggest that my figures are wrong. Posted on April 14, 2017 at 11:07 PM
stew83mul Total Posts: 663 Joined: May 30, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue I'd be more concerned with otters eating all the fish out of the pools than the zander to be honest,but that's a discussion for another day. Posted on April 14, 2017 at 11:16 PM
KenL Total Posts: 280 Joined: December 27, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue Yes, otters and cormorants are warm blooded and require vastly more food than pike or zander. Both can have a significant impact and of course, neither is constrained by natural equilibriums as they can up and leave when a water is depleted. Posted on April 15, 2017 at 7:15 AM
onelastcast Total Posts: 821 Joined: July 4, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue Trouble is Stew there is little we can do about Otters, at least they are an indigenous species, The Zander is not. Well maybe the pools could be fenced off, but given the pools alongside the Severn are prone to flooding probably not much point. Had a stroll around Apperley yesterday, one angler on a Bank Holiday!! and catching nowt, a few Bleak were topping but looked dead, but still early in the season. Match on soon, I was told, might check to see if anything comes out at the 'weigh in'. Posted on April 15, 2017 at 8:09 AM
GlenI Total Posts: 99 Joined: January 16, 2016	Re: Dyofix blue Stew, I forgot to answer your comment about me attending a committee meeting. Perhaps you could raise it with the rest of the committee to see if they want to reopen discussions. If they want me to attend to explain my views further, I'm certainly happy to do that. I think my sketch drawing was tabled at a previous meeting. But as I said, John explained they had considered my proposals and they were rejected as too risky. As for becoming a committee member, maybe, but I'm already on another club committee and spare time is quite precious for fishing. Posted on April 15, 2017 at 8:39 AM
stew83mul Total Posts: 663 Joined: May 30, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue Yes Glen I will mention it at the next meeting. Posted on April 15, 2017 at 9:19 AM
mixer Total Posts: 61 Joined: September 17, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue It is very obvious that the issues at Uckinghall can be debated until the cows come home.Like everyone else I have views on the various issues 1 Zander--They are there for the long term and hopefully they will not impact too much on the Silvers. 2 Lilies--They are there for the long term as well and hopefully the Dyofix will halt their spread so that in years to come there are still some pegs that are fishable. 3 Flooding on a regular basis. I have posted many times over the last few years to no avail.I have fished the pool more anyone in the last 8-9 years-regularly 3 times a week and have seen a gradual decline in catches.Invasion of river species is in my opinion the reason.The river regularly rises 6-9 feet above normal and because of the faulty pipe the pool mirrors this rise leaving platforms under water and access around the pool hazardous.On several occasions the pool has risen to within a few feet of the top of the flood bank meaning the pool is out of commission for days on end.This is NOT what should be happening and needs to be sorted as a matter of urgency so that members have access to fish 365 days a year. Sometimes due to thick mud Mythe Pool is very difficult to reach but no problems with access to Uckinghall. It is cracking venue and should be treasured and LOOKED AFTER. Posted on April 15, 2017 at 10:40 AM
Meatman Total Posts: 156 Joined: May 24, 2016	Re: Dyofix blue I fished Uckinghall yesterday - Sat 15th April. Had 3 bream out up to 4lb. One on corn, the other 2 on Spam. I was reasonably pleased as temperature was not particularly warm at around 13 degrees and quite a wind blowing. Only 3 other anglers there, not sure how they were doing - 2 of them fishing for carp I think. Posted on April 16, 2017 at 2:09 PM
GlenI Total Posts: 99 Joined: January 16, 2016	Re: Dyofix blue Just as an update - fished on Sunday 23rd April. Lilies are really popping up now so would suggest the Dyofix blue either wasn't strong enough or it doesn't work on lilies. No blue colour at all. Plenty of silver fish about and plenty of bubbles popping up in small patches suggesting the bream were rooting about. I was fishing for zander and had an 11 lb 5oz fish - well chuffed to say the least. Someone said a really big zander had come out recently but can't find any reports on here or the web in general. Maybe this pool could produce the next zander record. Posted on April 25, 2017 at 1:17 PM
Lee Total Posts: 86 Joined: June 8, 2015	Re: Dyofix blue Some of the opinions towards predators show a great deal of ignorance. Firstly, zander are renowned for taking quite small fish. So blaming them for losing better roach, tench or bream is just plain wrong. It's the same blind attitude that used to see pike slung up the bank thinking it would improve match weights. In fact, it resulted in an explosion of small pike as they are cannibalistic meaning big pike eat a lot of small pike. Take them away and you make the problem worse. Would removing lions from Africa really help the zebras, etc? Think about the quality of the stocks remaining and what happens when the weak and ill are able to reproduce. Zander have been in our waters for some decades now and the pessimistic predictions never came true. Stocks weren't wiped out by them nor will they be in the future. I would suggest that if zander are growing to double figure proportions at Ukinghall then it's because there is an ample supply of prey. They don't grow on fresh air and it's a sign of a healthy fishery. The Severn is also stuffed with roach and many other silvers so maybe some members could use their skills to catch some river fish if they are losing their touch at Ukinghall. Also, as an all rounder myself I find the attitude that all predator anglers do is sit snoozing quite ridiculous. There is no one way to enjoy fishing otherwise it could be argued that fishing for 2oz fish is also a waste of time. Posted on April 25, 2017 at 6:46 PM
ian_barbuspike Total Posts: 72 Joined: September 6, 2016	Re: Dyofix blue wise words from alum s an kent L , APPEARS at least someone no s a bit about sensible fisherys management . an yes me too if I wanted to fish a muddy hole some were I would . but this pool should have been left well alone !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Posted on April 25, 2017 at 10:37 PM